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No, its really my fault for bringing it up, I just suggested it on the off chance people were free today, lots of the regulars weren't hence we didn't do it. I think the Wednesday times have been working out alright so far, and in general I defer to Faldor's scheduling availability as he's been the one putting in the time to edit these things.

Its going to get crushed next weekend when Fast Six and Hangover 3 hit, both domestically and abroad (Fast and Furious movies are huge internationally). Part of me wants to feel good that they aren't being hugely rewarded for what isn't a very good movie, except that I don't think the things I dislike about it hurt the box office at all. Cinemascore was an A, most people seem to be positive about it, and the fans like me who think it drops the ball all still saw it. This looks more like a case of 2 things, a poor release date (sandwiched between Iron Man 3 and Fast Six), and a ceiling on how large of an audience you're going to get for a Star Trek movie.

I think the real lesson they should be taking from this is that a giant expensive explodey blockbuster is not the right approach, make it about the story, and scale back the budget. There is NO reason Star Trek movies should cost 200 million dollars. If we're lucky they'll take the series away from Abrams/Bad-Robot and let someone who actually understands the series have a crack at it. I think more than anything this movie shows a lot of the weaknesses of Abrams' re-imagining to begin with, by highlighting and magnifying the problems of the first movie. Star Trek should be a fun character driven series about space explorers, NOT an explodey check-your-brain-at-the-door set-piece driven action movie.

If we're lucky they give it to a new set of writers and do some kind of exploration story. I could also see them trying to cut costs and doing a present-day time-travel story a la Voyage Home, that could work because it would force them to hang the movie on the cast interactions (which are the best part about the Abrams movies) and downplay the action/conspiracy stuff.

Unfortunately, given the way Into Darkness goes, it seems likely that what they really want to do is a space war movie against the Klingons, and I think that's again not what this series should be about.

Any interest in recording a Star Trek into Darkness spoilercast this weekend (today or tomorrow)? I'm itching to talk about it and would prefer to record on a weekend instead of a weekday

Well, you asked for it.

Devin Farraci, who I normally vehemently disagree with, has a dead fucking on spoiler write-up as well about why its a terrible movie: http://badassdigest.com/2013/05/14/star … er-review/

No you should definitely show up, I'm recording from work so there's a possibility I won't make it, and we need a star trek expert in the house.

We could honestly go through a lot of them movie by movie chronologically, there's plenty to say about most of them. I haven't seen Generations/Insurrection/Nemesis, but can talk a lot about the original 6.

I love the shit out of The Motion Picture, great piece of hard sci-fi, great effects, great music. Pacing doesn't hold up too well, but it's no worse than 2001 in that regard.

damnit, wish you'd wait a week on the Star Trek discussion, it doesn't open in the US till this weekend, and I don't see it till Thursday.

Love Rango, its a cartoon for film-geeks first, kids second. Crazy homages to Raising Arizona, Apocalypse Now, Chinatown, you name it. And anyone who says Hans Zimmer is over-rated needs to listen to that score, which is amazing.

I continue to be baffled by the process of filming a 200 million dollar movie before you've even written a 3rd act. How the fuck did we get to this point? That's like trying to fly a plane before you've finished building the wings.
If you tried that in any other industry, your ass would be out in the street or in jail. I mean christ, it was Brad Pitt's own production company, why did he feel so pressured to start filming on this if they clearly weren't ready, wait 3 months and you save tens of millions of dollars.

It looks like the best scene from Mission to Mars, but for an entire movie, which is basically my dream movie.