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If you pause at 3:31, it's Ewan McGregor with his episode 2 hair. But yeah this was a cool video. Progressively, these music videos showed less and less behind-the-scenes footage. This one has footage of both the production and Williams conducting. The episode 2 music video only has the Williams footage. And the episode 3 one has nothing from behind-the-scenes and only has movie footage.

TPM was shot on 35mm, but weren't the VFX shots scanned in at 2k and then printed back onto film? And since there's a lot of VFX shots, I'd guess that most of the film's negative only has 2k worth of resolution anyway. Though it is possible that they went back to camera negatives, scanned those in at 4k, and then re-composited the CGI, but I don't know if the old software they used would even work on today's computers.

The kind of insight they give sort of reminds me of a DIF/FIYH podcast. And they actually even showed a clip from one of Ryan Wieber's old lightsaber tutorials (at 8:37).

What a treat! Thanks for doing this commentary guys! Teague, you haven't lost a step at all with the classic DIF/FIYH sync point instructions.

I haven't finished listening to it yet, but I'm really enjoying how you guys approached it from the lens of "What are our opinions on this thing before the internet told us to hate it?". Because my suspicion has long been that people typically thought The Phantom Menace was a fun movie, but had big problems with the next two. Speaking of which, I hope we get another commentary on Attack of the Clones in the future with this same kind of lens (although I don't think any kind of lens will be able to save that one from scrutiny)........Oh, and what did you guys think about The Last Jedi?

And about the Jedi robes discussion, although Obi-Wan's and Owen's robes look kind of similar in the original movie, Obi-Wan's are much closer in appearance to samurai robes (longer cloak that goes down to feet, huge sleeves), and Lucas did take inspiration from those Kurosawa samurai films. At some point though, I think he did want to make the Jedi have outfits similar to Luke's in ROTJ, but may have just decided to revert back to his original inspiration for what the Jedi were.

Oh and I think Ryan has become the new Trey with his interesting personal anecdotes.

Art optimization seems to be present in every aspect of entertainment and I definitely feel the fatigue. In the movie world, I used to enjoy superhero movies in the early 2000's. The genre at the time wasn't new, but studios hadn't systematically gotten those movies down to a cold formula. And so things still felt fresh. Now I feel the fatigue of similar types of "charming" characters, similar pacing, similar editing, and similar color grading.

I bet no one here watches the show Survivor (that show is still on?), but I've been watching for nearly two decades. I still enjoy the show but even a reality show is not immune to optimization. There are certain elements of the game that have evolved seemingly to keep the audience more superficially entertained. There was a hidden immunity idol that made for a thrilling moment last season? Let's put in more of them! Let's throw in multiple hidden advantages! Let's swap the tribes multiple times! Let's do everything we can to create surface-level excitement at the expense of conveying a real and genuine experience. I still enjoy the show though because the social dynamics are fascinating enough despite the "optimized" nature of everything else.

This is even true of movie documentaries. Remember "The Beginning", a documentary on the DVD of The Phantom Menace? It was so raw and so fresh. Then, as the prequel movies went on, these documentaries became edited with more and more intention. By the time we got to The Force Awakens, one might get the feeling that everything was great & everybody got along fantastically while making that movie (even though we know that's not the case). Although here, the optimization is not so much about the dopamine, but rather about the most efficient way to use the documentaries as propaganda.

Hell, even YouTube is not immune to this. The most successful YouTubers nowadays have gotten things down to a formula. They'll be talking to the camera with quick cuts as they move from topic to topic. They'll have someone off camera that they have "banter" with to give the appearance of authenticity. They'll insert multiple "calls to action" in their videos (remember to subscribe......hit that subscribe button......rate, comment, and subscribe if you like this video....etc.).

In general, things seem much more fresh and natural when they're just starting out. But it doesn't take long before companies or creators start to embark on that path of "optimization". It's not always bad though. But past a certain threshold (which is different from person to person), it becomes noticeable, tiring, and......unappealing.

Personally, I'm not all that knowledgeable about music theory or music history, so some parts of that got a little confusing for me. But the main point was still very fascinating. I think he might need to get an editor to tighten up his videos to allow for better audience retention in the future......I kid! Un-optimized Teague is lots of fun to listen to haha. (It sort of reminds me of when everyone used to talk over each other on the early DIF commentaries. It felt so real and raw! Then it became more optimized over time as they realized how things are "supposed to be". There's no escaping optimization. Even when it's not an intentionally calculated move, it still ends up happening.)

There are unaired episodes?! I would love to have those haha

Wayback only archived the main forum page for August 2018. The latest for any of the subforums is February 2018. And even then, it didn't actually archive any of the threads, so it probably won't be much help unfortunately.

Still, thanks for keeping the forum running! I'll always be a big fan of the podcast and it's nice that this place exists.

I was listening to the N64 podcast and, coincidentally, I also got Mario Kart 64 as my first game despite wanting Super Mario 64. Great system.

They're apparently making a 5th season of Prison Break.

Oh true, I'd almost forgotten about that post. Very enlightening stuff.

That was a nice podcast. It was like a reunion with old friends....in my head (I promise I don't have schizophrenia).

But seriously, it would be awesome to have the FIYH guest starring in Extended Edition podcasts every once in a while. I'm not even in the movie business, but I love hearing all the analysis and insight.