3,876

(50 replies, posted in Episodes)

I found this neat little article from a few years back as  I was "stumbleupon-ing" my way through the net. Since you guys were really talking about the whole idea that the prequels should change the way we see the originals. This guy takes what you guys were joking about and turns it into a really serious breakdown of it. It's a really cool way he looks at it.

http://www.morningstar.nildram.co.uk/A_New_Sith.html

3,877

(4 replies, posted in Off Topic)

I know I'm gonna forget a ton...but here we go, in no specific order.

Hellboy (2004)
Hellyboy 2 (2008)
Moulin Rouge (2001)
RENT (2005)
Star Trek (2009)
Inglorious Basterds (2009)
District 9 (2009)
Sweeny Todd (2007)
Monsters Inc (2001)
Shrek (2001)
Firely (2002) (TV series, but eh, sue me)
Serenity (2005)
Finding Nemo (2003)
Ice Age (2002)
Pirates of the Caribbean (2003)
The Incredibles (2004)
A Dog's Breakfast (2007)
Avatar (2009)
Dr. Horrible (2008)
Iron Man (2008)
Stranger Than Fiction (2006)
The Producers (2005)
Watchmen (2009)
Batman Begins (2005)
The Dark Knight (2008)

That's about all I can remember at the moment. But I know I missed a ton.

3,878

(19 replies, posted in Off Topic)

So i just finished the GB2 commentary and wanted to add a few things.

You guys were talking about how there are only so many stories you can have and as long as it's entertaining, okay, I can go with this.

So keeping in mind everything I said above, yes the story has been told in other places and other times, but I frickin enjoyed it and was thoroughly entertained throughout the entire thing which is a very rare thing lately.

So take that for what you will.

3,879

(19 replies, posted in Off Topic)

So I just got back from seeing it (FINALLY!) so everything that follows after could very easily be me in the whole OMGOMGOMG! MOVIE! Phase of things but I think it makes sense. So if you will listen I will try to explain what I'm thinking.

I really like how one of my friends described seeing Avatar, "This must be how people felt after seeing Star Wars!" Which I think works on a lot of levels she wasn't even tuned into.

We have a return to a very simple one sided, this is black and this white storyline. Which for me is like YEAH!! Whish as you guys yourself said when doing the prequels, we had the Sith and the Jedi, black and white. We get Luke is the good guy and we get Sideous/Vader are the bad guys, we don't question it, it's pretty frickin obvious and we don't go, "Hmm I wonder why they're like that?" they just are. Copy paste onto the humans (military side) versus the Na'vi/ good humans.

I frankly Looooooove this, it's a nice change to have a story where we don't spend the entire thing delving into why our bad guys are bad, and what scarring event as a child drove them to that. I don't care! Now I'm absolutely 100% you guys will critisice this as a poor storytelling choice. The easy way. Whatever, I don't care, I really dig the fact that Cameron gives it to us the way he wants us to see it. This isn't some scientific debate where all sides need to be heard equally and then a decision will be made. NO! This is Cameron showing us one point of view about the situation (and a very strong one at that), the humans are fucking over this planet and the innocent Natives are being slaughtered by the big bad humans with their guns.

Revolutionary visuals. Fairly self explanatory.

I know I'm rambling and this is turning into much more of a stream of conciousness than a coherent argument, but hopefully you kinda get what I'm going for.

Another thing I just sort of thought of. Not sure where I'm going with this but a weird little comparison. If you think about Han Solo and you think about Jake. They're kinda the same character. They both just sort of exist in this universe, when they get pulled into something larger (Jakes brother dies and he gets pulled into the Avatar program), they both sort of go along with it not really believing in the religious/magic stuff, until they are basically forced into the middle of it (Jake starts lessons with the Na'vi), And soon starts to beleive in the magic and side with the magic people (Han turns from smuggler to hero of the rebellion alongside Luke), and they both end up fighting the bad guys who at first they just sort of exsisted with (Han existing under the Empire, and Jake with the marines).

I have no clue what that says about the movie, but I thought it was kind of interesting.

You can blame this next bit on my inexperience or what have you,I'm not paticular, but it's what I think. Going back to the whole idea of this movie as a essay versus a balanced debate on an issue, the same concept could have easily been brought over into the character arcs. The only characters who have any amount of arcs are the good guys (Jake, Neytiri, most of Na'vi (In their acceptance of Jake even though he is tecnically one of the sky people), Grace (From basically loathing Jake to fighting alongside him), etc et. I'm not saying that they are amazing arcs, I'm just saying that they do have arcs. Whereas if you look at the bad guys, the closest thing we get to an arc is a slight look of hesitation on Parkers face before he tells them to pull the trigger and blowup the Home Tree. So my arguement would state that why would a story told entirely from the point of veiw of the good guys (And very deliberatly so) want to add any amount of depth to the bad guys, they're bad and evil just because they are. Think about it, Americans didn't ask why Nazis were evil during WW2, they just were and that was enough.

You guys said that Starship Troopers (and 300) were styled as a propaganda film for that universe. I say that Avatar would fall under the same category. (Same arguement goes for Starship Troopers, we never wonder why the bugs are tryingto kill us. They're just evil, it's what they do, and they need to die. )

Hope at least some of that made sense.


Chris out.

BTW My name is in the credits, that made me happy. lol.

3,880

(2,061 replies, posted in Episodes)

Well the thing was, that Hellboy 1 was based pretty much completely off Mike Mignola (Amazing) graphic novels, where as Hellboy 2. Was pretty completely a figment of Guillermo's imagination (Thus the much more Pan's Labyrinth-y creatures). Of course with the exception of Krauss, who is from the comics.

3,881

(12 replies, posted in Off Topic)

That does sound pretty cool rian, but I'll just throw this in. I can't remember who said it but someone mentioned "Where did this prophecy come from??" Because truthfully we have never heard of it before the prequels. So correct me if I'm wrong Dorkman, but I don't think you wanted to put it in the alternate prequels. Which I do kinda agree with. But it would be kinda cool.

3,882

(12 replies, posted in Off Topic)

okay, that makes sense.

So the first Darth Vader was just a dude (A sith dude, but still just a dude).

That's wicked man.

But dude, now I'm depressed again at the thought of what we lost the chance to have.

3,883

(54 replies, posted in Episodes)

Details are the spice of life my friend. You are living a bland and tasteless existence.  tongue

3,884

(12 replies, posted in Off Topic)

I figured this deserved a thread already.

Holy freaking epicness Dorkman!!

Although I'm just a little confused on one thing. (In the grand scheme of all 6 movies) Are we meant to beleive that the "Charred beyond all recognition body" is Anakin and then he is placed into the suit that fell in the giant pit of lava. Thus he becomes Darth Vader?

I'm namely just confused by the phrase "The suit goes on."


Otherwise an amazingly beautiful piece of work.

3,885

(50 replies, posted in Episodes)

Fair enough, I still prefer head bashing episodes.

Anyways, I was watching Sith again...I'm a glutton for pain what can I say...and specifically I was looking at the Grevious fight, and maybe I'm just imagining it but when Obi Wan goes into to stop the Quadruple Blender of Death he stabs like right in the middle and if you look at Grevious he kinda seems to stop and meet him at that point. So it's not so much of a Obi Wan throwing a blade in there and it stopped, but that Grevious was wanting the fight to continue.

I'm not trying to defend it, far from it. I'm just try to rack my brain to figure out if that is even whats going on. Why?!?

It's just a weird little thing I noticed, and since you guys were going off on it so much.

3,886

(32 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Yep I'm good. Great commentary too!

And the streaming thing looks right too.

3,887

(54 replies, posted in Episodes)

Psst...Matt had the notes...Trey was non existent in this episode. tongue

3,888

(32 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Oh yah, it's navigable, it just might be a little confusing for new people cause all you can see is these white boxes with no instructions. But yah unless they're complete morons we can figure it out.

3,889

(50 replies, posted in Episodes)

But where is the fun in a giant love fest? Well maybe once the guys get a girl on the show, then we'll talk. But I want to see heads bashed in!!

Well more specifically it's really the head bash episodes that teach me more. I mean yah you can learn from the love fests but I learn a hulluva lot more from the guys convos over why a film DIDN'T work. That being said, I learned A HELLUVA lot on this episode. Great job guys, loved it.

3,890

(32 replies, posted in Off Topic)

Yes I am talking about just the forum, sorry.

I've tried it on all of my monitors: running 1920x1200, 1024x786, and 1440x900.

And it happens on all of them.

3,891

(32 replies, posted in Off Topic)

So just a couple things I've run into:

1) All the text on the site in important places is the same color as the background (Write message:, all the register stuff as well as the login stuff)

2)The streaming file for Hook just leads to a file not working

3)On some of the movies the streaming player gets bumped down so that it's overlayed on top of the scrolling bar.  (I think it just depends on how long winded Teague is in the description.) But yah it kinda gets lost amongst the movie posters.

And that's all I've found so far. If I find any more I'll let you know.

3,892

(2,061 replies, posted in Episodes)

Really? My interest is piqued.

3,893

(2,061 replies, posted in Episodes)

Really Dorkman? And why would that be? I'm actually really interested, as Pans Labyrinth is definitely one of my favorites. Also same goes for HB2.

@Trey, I'm much the same way, except that HB2 sneaks ahead by a very slim margin. I'm just a sucker for the whole elf kingdom and troll market stuff.

3,894

(2,061 replies, posted in Episodes)

Hellboy 2.

A film I have enjoyed for a very long time, but have just recently realized is quite likely my favorite movie of all. But as we all know that is constantly shifting.

I just love the entire idea of the Fairy Tale for adults concept that inhabits all of Del Toros work (Which is probably why Pans Labyrinth,Hellboy and Hellboy 2 would all be in my top 5 easily). It's just a concept that you don't see enough, or at least I don't. (So if you know any good ones, let me know! I can never get enough!)

The main reason I prefer Hellboy 2 over the first one, is that the second one focuses much more on the elf/troll world and how it intercepts with the human world. (Plus I just frickin love Nuada and Nuala. Choreography heaven for moi). Whereas the first focuses much more on the occult with Rasputin. (Although I do absolutly love Karl Ruprecht Kroenen.)

Anyways I could talk for hours.



And as far as who you'd like to see on the show...well if you do Hellboy  (1 or 2), I'd personally love to volunteer!

3,895

(27 replies, posted in Off Topic)

I'm Chris. I ADORE this show. I havn't had a chance to view the merch yet, namely cause I'm broke and can't afford the temptation. And I love you too Teague.

Aside from the obvious (See above.) I am currently studying at Vancouver Film School. Eventually moving into VFX.

Oh yah and I was know as TenthDimensionFilms on the old forums. But this way it's easier, cause I'm the same across all forums. (Namely TFN).