A Song of Ice and Fire (BOOK READERS ONLY; MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD) (Page 3 of 13)

My own thoughts - most has already been said.

Joffrey's Wedding: it's difficult. I don't think it'd be a good season-ender, but it doesn't need much more setup either.

To me, it's definitely going to be sometime during next season's first half. I like the idea of having it in episode 4. Most of the first three episodes' King's Landing screen time would focus on Sansa.

Then the rest of the season can have Tyrion's trial, his trial by combat - which would be a great way to start introducing the Martells, as they start being important thereafter; dismissing them entirely would be odd - and the murder of his father (which I can't wait for, one of my favorite chapters from the books).

Dontos/Shae: I guess it'd make more sense to bring Dontos back. His appearance in season 2 might only have been there for Sansa/Joffrey - and a way to keep some minor characters, as they've already had to ditch so many - but I don't really see how it would go with Shae. They'd have to change too many things. Dontos and Sansa's secret meetings - although originally in book 2 - would correctly fill her screen time. As already said, Dontos would then have to appear next week to start it.

I don't believe the Tyrells could fill that role either; having failed to get Sansa with Loras, they completely forget about her. A nice reminder of what this is all about - a game of thrones.

Coldhands: definitely. We've followed Sam closely this season, and he and Gilly only arrived at the Wall this week, so it wouldn't make sense not to show him next week - and his only event left is to meet Coldhands.

Jorah's banishment: oh yes.

Dany: My guess is that they'll hint at how hard it's gonna be for her to rule Yunkai. Originally, the city she takes is Meereen, having already gone through Yunkai - and Yunkai starts to build up an army to take her down. So maybe they've switched the two and we'll start hearing about Meereen.

It's also likely that she'll start developing her relationship with Daario next week.

The Lannisters: Nothing much here. They'll probably be shown talking about their victory over Robb.

Jon Snow: It's going to take a bit of screen time to show him gone back to Castle Black. My guess is that the episode could end with the wildlings attacking the Castle, much like last season with the Others attacking the Fist of the First Men.

Bran: My main guess is that he'll meet with Sam and Coldhands. The last we'll see of them is getting to the other side of the Wall.

Lady Stoneheart: it would certainly be awesome, but I think it's too soon. I think she'll only appear when Brienne gets caught by the Brotherhood next season.

Brienne isn't; she's seen alive in book 5, apparently spared by the Brotherhood.

EDIT : oooh, question: do you think Benjen Stark is still alive ? I'd completely forgotten about him.

Last edited by Saniss (2013-06-06 17:16:40)

This is another way that the show could reveal things before the books do. If Coldhands looks like Benjen, then we have our answer. The show's had to play around stuff like this before. The Arstan Whitebeard reveal was drastically changed, because the audience would know who it was on sight.

Coldhands never shows his face, not even to Bran and the others.  The only visible part of him are his frozen hands.

Which would make sense if he's trying to avoid being recognized by his nephew... or could be a red herring so we'll assume it's Benjen and be wrong later.

It does seem logical, though. I can't remember whether I thought about it when I read the books or not.

It is, but right now I can't really figure out how they would show it.

The show works the same way the books do - each sequence follows one particular character. Which character would that particular sequence be following?

Well, if I was assigned to write it....

Early on, maybe right at the start of the episode: The morning after the RW, the Freys are celebrating and mopping up.  We see Robb's body with his wolf's head sewn on, Catelyn dumped in the river.  Flawless victory for the Lannisters. Sad, sad, sad.

Follow somebody else for a while... then back to...

Arya's vision where she wargs into Nymeria and pulls her mother's body from the river, then flees when the Brotherhood arrives.   

Alternate, just show it straight rather than through a vision - but the vision is a nice way to tie it to Arya, whom we also need to see in this episode.  So let's make the vision the beginning of her segment, then she wakes up from it - what did THAT mean?    And then we resolve her adventure with the Hound and she's done for the season.

Follow others again for a bit...

End of episode, The Brotherhood around the fire, doing a ritual.  We're not sure what it's about at first... mumbo jumbo mumbo jumbo... holy shit.  Zombie Catelyn WTF

End credits.

I think Stoneheart is a bit too early, and that the show really needs to let the audience dwell on recent events - not go 'oh well, some of them are already back!' Part of the surprise in the books is that it comes after you've had ample time to accept that the RW happened and that there's little hope for the Starks.

Mance's army approaching the wall, giants and all?
Honestly Dany's ending might be strong enough on its own, I don't think they necessarily need a "shocking" ending, the shocker was ep 9. I do think they'll do Stoneheart though, just to get the really mad Red Wedding people a reason to come back next season.

Question: Who do you think Dani´s riders will be?
I've already said that I believe John Snow will be one of her riders but who will be the other?
Will it be Bran who will be warg(ing?) into one of the Dragons? I know it's super thin but that's my pet theory right now.

Last edited by AshDigital (2013-06-08 12:53:23)

Well, I have thought about the three riders problem some time ago-
I actually would not exclude that the Aegon we were presented is real. Three dragons are pretty badass to have, but what if Dany actually allies with Aegon somewhere along the ride but later (as he reveals himself to be more of the mad kings state of mind as is already hinted in book 5) they part ways again, though Aegon even got around to controll a dragon? Might lead to some interesting fx scenes towards the end.

On the other hand- what would be the point of the extensive development novel of Bran, when he will not warg into something awesome? Wait- perhaps Aegon gets hold of a dragon, reveals his true self and is then stopped by his own dragon via Brans remote control?
This could also be the case if the Greyjoy gets hold of one by means of the horn.

Well, just saw the season finale, and...