Topic: Godzilla (2012)

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Fuck yes. If done correctly, this could be a tremendous summer blockbuster.

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Then again, even many of the Japanese Godzilla movies suck so it's hard to get the balance right. It'll really depend on the director.
(Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla was the only one of the last batch I bothered buying)

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I dunno, man. I've never sat down and watched a whole Godzilla movie (except the 1998 one), but what bits and pieces I've seen here and there have totally failed to interest me on any level. If one wanted to dip a toe into those waters, where would one start? Is there legitimately good stuff there, or is it all enjoy-it-ironically hipster crap?

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I'd start with the classics, the original Godzilla (uncut subtitled version) and Mothra vs Godzilla (which should be watched as social satire). The new DVDs from Classic Media have great commentaries on them as well. Good but more campy would be Invasion of Astro-Monster. After that they start going down hill. For good non Godzilla monster films, Frankenstein Conquers the World and War of the Gargantuas are well worth watching. I especially love the subtle love story in Frankenstein- there was no way the studio could show a relationship between star Nick Adams and his female Japanese assistant, so instead you kind of notice after awhile that all the scenes between them are in either his apartment or hers dressed in robes....

For your dip into modern monster movies, you HAVE to watch the 1990's Gamera films. Incredible, and fun, they put the 90's Godzilla films to shame.

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Yeah, if you like monster movies, I URGE you to get your hands on some Kaiju Big Battel (not a typo).  The concept is that you take the monsters that would usually be destroying cities, and you make them settle it... IN THE RING.

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Genuinely fun stuff.

When.

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I made this thread 3 fucking years ago. FINALLY, the trailer is out.

http://www.mediafire.com/watch/80t812mp … Vishnu.mp4

It looks glorious.

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I'm interested.

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I'm totally down with this. Whilst I'm not a huge Godzilla fan, I do have a quite soft spot for the old movies (Mothra vs Godzilla is my favourite).

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The Oppenheimer quote gave me some hope that they're aiming to capture the tone of the Toho original.

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Ewing wrote:

I made this thread 3 fucking years ago. FINALLY, the trailer is out.

http://www.mediafire.com/watch/80t812mp … Vishnu.mp4

I'm still in line for Ghostbusters 3.

not long to go now...

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Oh my, that trailer was actually all kinds of creepy. I am in.

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Man this looks cool. I guess they played this originally at Comic-Con 2012, so it's more of a "tone poem" than a proper trailer.

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Comic-Con 2013, surely? Isn't that actual footage from the film?

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Nope, 2012. They played a full trailer at Comic-Con this year.

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I see. I was confused as to just what trailer was played where and when. Mostly when.

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I'm in total agreement with Squiggly_P with everything except the part about making a good Godzilla film for the modern age. I think it's doable and I'm so glad this movie is playing it like a horror/disaster film instead of whatever the fuck the 98 film was shooting for.

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The thing that gives me the most hope about this movie is that its directed by the guy who did Monsters

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I remain skeptical that you can make a serious approach to a movie like this work (though I'm glad they're trying). At the end of the day, so much of the concept and appeal, at least from the fanboys, IS the destruction porn, and yet that is kind of exactly the stuff that drags the material down and makes it not work.

I know there's no way they'd do this for an actual Godzilla movie, but I would so much rather watch a version of this where it's just following the scientists and first-responders trying to figure out what to do with the situation, and Godzilla is only really ever glimpsed as a towering thing in the background and on monitors. It'd be similar to Cloverfield,  but from the POV of the scientists and without the shaky found-footage approach.

Unfortunately, there's a large segment of the fanbase that just wants monsters fighting, and would complain like crazy if this was the studio's approach to it, but I think fundamentally it's the most interesting way to handle the material, and I hope Gareth Edwards and WB have the guts to try something like this.

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I also wish we'd see more romantic comedies where there are no scenes of the two potential lovers together, and it's all what their friends are saying in the other room smile

There are a number of Godzilla movies where the monster is almost an afterthought, with human plots taking up most of the running time. It's just if you go too far why bother having the monster? Call your movie something else. You don't like the genre, which is fine, but converting monster movies into non-monster movies isn't the solution smile

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Yes, but the difference is the human plots in the movies you mention are almost uniformly terrible.
I'm not saying there should be no monster action, but it's way more narratively engaging when it's about the impact of the destruction on people, versus just empty eye-candy from a god's eye POV.

It's why the opening sequence in War of the Worlds works so well, and it's the best thing about Cloverfield. You can't tell me that something like the end sequence of Children of Men, but done through a city getting destroyed by Godzilla, wouldn't be vastly more intense and thrilling than yet another typical giant monster fight.

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Depends on how it's done. We have not had a good monster fight in a decade or so, so it's not like the trope has been overused. As you said, we've had Cloverfield. Godzilla 2000 in many ways copied the 90's Gamera films which blew the earlier Godzilla films out of the water, and I'd hate for the first of the new Godzilla films to just copy Cloverfield. Let's see if this new team can do a good, old fashioned, Godzilla movie before we ask them to jazz it up.

(If you like, we can have our heroes fleeing under the feet of two monsters fighting, sort of an updated War of the Gargantuas)

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Yes, but the difference is the human plots in the movies you mention are almost uniformly terrible.
I'm not saying there should be no monster action, but it's way more narratively engaging when it's about the impact of the destruction on people, versus just empty eye-candy from a god's eye POV.

It's why the opening sequence in War of the Worlds works so well, and it's the best thing about Cloverfield. You can't tell me that something like the end sequence of Children of Men, but done through a city getting destroyed by Godzilla, wouldn't be vastly more intense and thrilling than yet another typical giant monster fight.

I would say that the original Godzilla is along those lines, which if I recall correctly is the kind of approach they're taking this time round.

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Invid wrote:

(If you like, we can have our heroes fleeing under the feet of two monsters fighting, sort of an updated War of the Gargantuas)

For what it's worth, it sounded like the clip they showed at comic-con was exactly this, so fingers crossed

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Teaser trailers like this excite me because yes, the title character looks awesome and the production seems headed in the right direction.

They terrify me because I realize that for approx. 120 minutes, lots of other characters will have to speak and do things in order to tell a story. It's that last part where they usually lose it.

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So is there more than one monster planned in this film? I'm not sure 'Godzilla fights other monsters' bodes well for a serious and poignant story. Wouldn't that essentially turn Godzilla into a protagonist?

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