Just Saw The Avengers In Australia! Spoiler Free Zone So Don't Stress! (Page 1 of 2)

I shall be seeing it tomorrow, I'll let you know then

Are you seeing it in 3 or 2D, Red? I'm seeing it in 2D at 11.30am, if I wanted to see it in 3D (which I don't), I'd have to go an hour earlier.

It is apparently really hard to find it in 2D, which is odd. My local in Hamilton (a 50 minute bus ride) is showing it all day, so I'm lucky/glad

I saw it today and I loved it. It was action packed and really funny. The Hulk is a comic genius

I just listened to the Joss podcast, so it was interesting to hear Trey's view, which I think echo your own.

I agree with the ending of CA being a bit of a stretch to get him back in the "real world" but the Avengers was a bit heavy handed. However, I would disagree with the point that the Red Skull being pathetic, but this is personal preference. I thought Hugo Weaving did a great job, especially after they had to reveal the skull underneath. While I was only passingly familiar with CA because of the Spiderman cartoon, I found the movie to just be plan fun, reminiscent of what I would expect the comic was designed to emulate-WW2 fears and patriotism. Kind of campy but still fun. Plus, Stanley Tucci

Thor was just kind of epic for me. While the plot was kind of jumbled in points, the overall tone of the film was a very large world, bigger than what is seen on the screen. Chris Hemworth also rocked as Thor, and set up a fun dynamic of Loki. Again, I am not familiar with the Thor universe of the comics, but my knowledge of Norse mythos lent to the fun.

The only reason I am seeing the Avengers fro Thor, CA and Tony Stark. Anything else is just bonus

I probably should never mess with a Norwegian in that regard lol

I didn't say that it was accurate to the original mythology, but that my (basic) knowledge of it lent to my experience of the movie.

But, as little of Norse mythos I know, I have a even less knowledge of Thor from the comics. Honestly, I thought the whole Loke being related thing was kind of forced. But, that was just mean.

If it weren't for the obvious sarcasm, I'd appropriately beat you with a hammer.

I always gave Thor it's detours from the "real-world" norse mythology, because it's pretty clear that what we know as norse mythology is actually based on 2nd or 3rd hand information passed down, from people who knew the gods when they walked the earth or even from the gods themselves, and some of that might be overblown, or just plain not even true (egos of the gods and all), and then you also add in a few centuries of human fuckery to turn it into a proper religion, and you get a version of Asgard thats...kinda there but actually not really.

I also rather enjoyed Thor btw. Although it definitly could have used another couple drafts to smooth out the whole "And now I'm in love with you, so now I have have to save the entire planet"...thing. There was a definite imbalance in the level of earth to Asgard stuff. But aside from that it was fun.

Well yeah, except in this case we actually get to see and hang out with the REAL gods that the religion is based on. So we can make a one to one comparison.

EDIT: Did you just imply that every religion is actually based on a warping of real, existing gods? Cause I'm pretty sure you did.

Last edited by BigDamnArtist (2012-04-29 03:35:24)

Alright. I was talking from a third party perspective, but from an internal perspective, yeah, true enough.

True, in the real world. But as far as Thor goes, I'm fairly certain they actually make a joke or at least hang a lantern on the fact that they actual kinda fucked with the humans religion to make themselves look better...or something along those lines. It's been a while since I saw it.

And I believe so, I'm definitely not a historian or even play one on tv, but from what I do know, that would sound about right. Most of it just stems from how isolated the Norse religions were compared to Greek/Roman/Egyptian. I mean those three pretty much swapped ideas every day.

Last edited by BigDamnArtist (2012-04-29 04:12:44)

I would like to point out that in Christianity, you also have canon, so its not all dogma.

Also, I hate derailing threads, but having studied ancient Judaism, not sure were the polytheistic aspect come from, at least not in the sense that Greek/Roman or Egyptian systems were polytheistic. In Jewish history, the Jews would occasionally follow Canaanite gods who were technically not part of their overall belief system. They just borrowed it for a while before returning to their monotheism. Even archeological evidence supports Jewish traditions being quite old and being quite different from their Canaanite neighbors.