Topic: Aliens: Special Edition

We love Eddie, and not just because he's stunning to look at and a tremendous player here in Hollywood. We love him because he can bring the pain, and bring the pain he does.

"Asimovian." He says that shit. Who says that shit? Eddie.

I consider this a good summary of the episode.

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Very entertaining. Eddie had some great insights.

I always assumed Arcturus was a colony filled with easy chicks, not alien chicks.

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except that apparently whatever "Arcturians" are, you can't tell the males from the females, and it doesn't matter.   

Even assuming that the characters are teasing each other, it's always seemed to me there's more to that story than just relaxed Arcturian morals.   It's as if they're talking about sheep or something.

In fact there's an old joke that goes sorta like that.  (The punchline is "yeah, but you picked the UGLIEST one!"  You can probably work out the rest of the joke yourself. :-)

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Right. I guess I just never took that remark literally. It just seems like any other discussion of girls by military men; they always seem to claim that the other guy's date was a dude.

Iron Man comes to mind, and I think there was a similar thing in Top Gun.

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The links here mostly work at night, mostly.

Aliens on Amazon.com
Aliens on IMDB

As an avid fan of this film I have included a few of my own comments; these are marked with an *.

Many of the points I bring up come from James Cameron's own commentary (also required viewing IMHO); these are preceded by "JCC."

Certain comments are marked with a timestamp; this refers to the commentary time, not the film time.

*Burke will state it soon, but it has actually been 57 years since the events of Alien.

*The year is generally accepted to be 2179.

JCC: It is never explicitly stated, but Ripley never in fact sets foot on Earth in this film.

JCC: Despite some initial difficulty nailing down what Cameron wanted, Ray Lovejoy did edit Aliens.

*There were two major cast / crew changes on Aliens. Adrian Biddle replaced DickBush as the cinematographer, and Michael Biehn replaced James Remar as Hicks.

JCC: Cameron got the job to write Aliens because the producers of Alien had read his script for The Terminator and wanted to work with him on something. He was allowed to also direct the film following the success of The Terminator.

JCC: Sigourney Weaver was not brought on board until very late in the writing process. Cameron was asked to pursue a storyline that excluded Ripley which he balked at. As a result Sigourney became the first actress to get $1 million for her role, a role for which she received an Oscar nomination for Best Actress in a Leading Role.

JCC: The robotic cutting arm and laser scanner were not in the initial budget for the film; Cameron paid for them himself.

The New Beverly Cinema

JCC: The reasoning behind the suit design is to suggest that while this is the future, Burke and the other bureaucrats are "suits," and regardless of timeframe, a "suit" is a "suit."

Rear Projection, or RP

Front Projection

(0:13:43) JCC: Sigourney later said that she had based her entire character on this scene. Also the picture Burke shows her is actually Sigourney’s mother.

Look, Helen Mirren!

(0:15:40) *The crew dossiers that appear behind Ripley inthis scene were originally written by Ridley Scott for the cast of Alien, and appear as an “Easter Egg” on older editions of the Alien DVD.

(0:16:45) *Adjusting for inflation from 1986 brings the cost of the Nostromo up to ~ $83 million, still pretty cheap for a spacecraft.

*Michael Biehn states (on one of the Alien 3 special features) that he got paid almost as much for the use of his picture in that film, as he got for actually playing the role of Hicks in Aliens

(0:20:10) JCC: This entire sequence on the colony comprises an entire reel that was cut from the theatrical release.

“Art is never finished, it is merely abandoned.” - Leonardo Da Vinci (unconfirmed)

Peter’s neighbor in Spiderman 2, Mageina Tovah.

Paul Reiser, as Burke

The Late Shift

Some Alien stuff Bob Burns cares for.

*Fun fact: On the readout that displays the names of everyone in cryosleep, Hudson is missing.

Wierzbowski Hunters

Re: Eddie’s Mom: Newsweek, February 18, 1980“Women in the Military – Should They Be Drafted?”

Asimov’s Three Laws of Robotics

Ron Cobb designed the “BugStompers” logo on the nose of the dropship.

William Goldman, we mention him a lot.

*Sidebar, my fault, keep reading

*The Smart Gun, is actually a German MG-42 dressed in parts from a motorcycle, and mounted on a steadicam harness.

*A good breakdown of some of the weapons used.

*The incinerators are based on the M-16

*Vasquez carries a Colt 1911

*Gorman carries a Heckler & Koch VP70; also the gun handed to Bishop before his pipe crawl

*Subdued rank, or rank that matches the camouflage of the uniform, came as a result of Vietnam, and a lack of understanding of basic color science.  If you’re in a green place, wearing all green, the bright yellow thing on your sleeve, or the shiny metal thing on your headgear, tends to stick out.  It didn’t take the enemy too long to learn rank structure and act accordingly.

In case you haven’t seen Star Trek: Lens Flare

Eddie means aeronautics, not avionics

*The APC is a great cheat; watch closely, you never see more than 3 people get out, that’s all there was room for.  The interior was a whole other set.

Eddie is either referring to the Daewoo K11, or the XK8

Forces of Geek

Asimovian

Oorah!

Carrie Henn was cast as Newt with no acting experience; Aliens remains her only acting role.

Lance Henriksen had special double-pupil scleral lenses made for the dissection scene, but Cameron deemed them to creepy.

Caseless ammunition

(1:19:10) *The model shop guys did re-create the clear “dome” of the Alien skull, but Cameron had them remove it because these aliens would be jumping around a lot more, and be more prone to the dome being damaged and needing to be replaced.

Footprint in the snow

M2/M3 Bradley Fighting Vehicle

(1:45:15) JJC: The little look that Bishop does after "I may be synthetic, but I'm not stupid," is because he realizes he just made a joke, but since he's not human he’s not sure if it worked.

The closest thing we have to the M41A Pulse Rifle, the G11

*There is an editing mistake as Ripley is arming herself to get newt; she grabs a pulse rifle and a flame thrower off the rack, but sets them down in the wrong order.  Grabs rifle, puts down flame thrower, grabs flame thrower, puts down rifle.

(2:30:10): *The Powerloader could either be suspended from cables on the ceiling, or in this case, with a pole armout the back. 

The Reebok Alien Stompers sneakers

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according to the first draft of the script, Wierzbowski actually had lines.  His lines were the ones about cornbread and some other stuff.  I think his lines ended up being given to the Frost character.  That is, unless the skinny, black guy is the Wierzbowski character...

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So. I am listening for Aliens right now and right in the beginning you guys talk about which movie is Bill Gates (Aliens) and which is Steve Jobbs (Alien).. And joking mentioning Jobb´s cancer and how this joke will turn out in the future..... Well..   yikes

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Damn.  Forgot about that.

Eddie Doty

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Hee hee.  That one took a while to pay off, but it was just a matter of time.

That's nothing compared to the number of verbal timebombs in DIF episodes that will all go off when _I_ die.    lol

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Great commentary. Perfect movie.

Now what?

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Soooooo.....


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What have I done?

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(Teague added this, not Holden.)

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I would have thought this was the obvious one, but then no one did it. So I had too.

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Back in 1986, they released a board game based on the movie. This is a flash version of that game, and it's brilliant - really hard to do and quite addictive. Warning, it can be unfair, but then that's part of the fun!

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/408816

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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BigDamnArtist wrote:

Soooooo.....


aliens

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