Re: Zarban's lightsaber battle project
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Tomahawk wrote:
I know Norwegian.
What we really need is a droid that understands the binary language of moisture vaporators.
+3 
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- drewjmore
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E-mails are out to those who put their names on the list to roto the saber cores. Anyone else who's got some time just send a PM or something and we'll get you set up...we'd really love to have your help, the more of the community who is on the team the more incredible the product will be!!
If you're already participating, here is the official...
Lightsaber Rotoscopy Punch List:
Shot 01, 2s: Niken activates lightsaber.
Shot 02, 6s: Straya activates lightsaber.
Saniss- Shot 03, 1s: Niken attacks (quick exchange OS of Niken).
Shot 04, 1s: Attack, Reverse angle
Shot 05, 1s: Camera Circles Clockwise
Shot 06, 1s: Saber Lock
Shot 07, 0.5s: Lock, Reverse angle
Shot 08, 0.5s: Break lock.
Shot 09, 7s: Niken begins Force lightning.
Shot 10, 6s: Straya resists Force lightning. (continuous to shot 11)
Shot 11, 6s: Straya fights off Force lightning, whip pan.
Shot 12, 5s: Straya Force-pushes Niken and stabs him.
Shot 13, 7s: Both deactivate.
Last edited by drewjmore (2014-11-27 04:53:53)
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Thanks, Phi! Version 2 is the sweet spot, I'd say. I little buzz or reverb, and it will be good and computer-y.
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drewjmore wrote:
The "beep beep boop" sounds Phi threw in at the end of the ship's computer lines would be perfect if we, say, sped them up and looped them 20 or 50 times with some random pauses and changes in sequence, or just used the beep and the boop as Morse code tones. Add the eerie radio transmission phasing sounds and we'd have it.
Love it.
Tomahawk wrote:
I know Norwegian.
Love it.
- Tomahawk
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Well, I was pointing that comment towards a language that could fit a droid. Something that, even not-processed, isn't exactly widely understood.
But hey, don't mind me, I don't speak much to moisture vap- ehm, Owen's mom, nor do I speak a lick of Bocci.
- BigDamnArtist
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Clearly what we really need is someone who can scat.
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drewjmore wrote:
E-mails are out to those who put their names on the list to roto the saber cores. Anyone else who's got some time just send a PM or something and we'll get you set up...we'd really love to have your help, the more of the community who is on the team the more incredible the product will be!!
If you're already participating, here is the official...
Lightsaber Rotoscopy Punch List:
Shot 01, 2s: Niken activates lightsaber.
Shot 02, 6s: Straya activates lightsaber.
DONE! Saniss- Shot 03, 1s: Niken attacks (quick exchange OS of Niken).
Shot 04, 1s: Attack, Reverse angle
Shot 05, 1s: Camera Circles Clockwise
Shot 06, 1s: Saber Lock
Shot 07, 0.5s: Lock, Reverse angle
Shot 08, 0.5s: Break lock.
Shot 09, 7s: Niken begins Force lightning.
Shot 10, 6s: Straya resists Force lightning. (continuous to shot 11)
Shot 11, 6s: Straya fights off Force lightning, whip pan.
drewShot 12, 5s: Straya Force-pushes Niken and stabs him.
Shot 13, 7s: Both deactivate.
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I'm gunna have a stab at Shot 10 poss 11 now. Teagues method
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- drewjmore
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That's what I'm talking about!
I just hope Dave appreciates all this help. 
drewjmore wrote:
E-mails are out to those who put their names on the list to roto the saber cores. Anyone else who's got some time just send a PM or something and we'll get you set up...we'd really love to have your help, the more of the community who is on the team the more incredible the product will be!!
If you're already participating, here is the official...
Lightsaber Rotoscopy Punch List:
Shot 01, 2s: Niken activates lightsaber.
Shot 02, 6s: Straya activates lightsaber.
DONE! Saniss- Shot 03, 1s: Niken attacks (quick exchange OS of Niken).
Shot 04, 1s: Attack, Reverse angle
Shot 05, 1s: Camera Circles Clockwise
Shot 06, 1s: Saber Lock
Shot 07, 0.5s: Lock, Reverse angle
Shot 08, 0.5s: Break lock.
Shot 09, 7s: Niken begins Force lightning.
DONE! Screwball- Shot 10, 6s: Straya resists Force lightning. (continuous to shot 11)
Screwball- Shot 11, 6s: Straya fights off Force lightning, whip pan.
DONE! drew- Shot 12, 5s: Straya Force-pushes Niken and stabs him.
DONE! drew- Shot 13, 7s: Both deactivate.
Last edited by drewjmore (2014-12-02 06:19:50)
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It's happening!
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- Tomahawk
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NEVER SET TO ADD, NEVER SET TO ADD!!!
*noncaps-letters*
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*eyebrow*
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I have a tendency to fix your typos.
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Oh god...the endless battles that were fought over add vs screen.
/team linear dodge
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Whoa. Wayback machine.
Anyway, I was more eyebrowing because with the possible exception of lightsabers (specifically), Tom's thing is like the opposite of good advice.
Teague Chrystie
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I have a tendency to fix your typos.
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Alright, I got curious, so for funsies I made a middle-of-the-road saber glow and tried a jillion combinations of blending mode (add, screen, linear dodge), working space (linear, logarithmic), and gamma setting (standard, 1.0) in After Effects.
Because it's a bunch of images, I'm not going to embed them here, I'll give ya the option to check it in another tab. You'll probably wanna do some browser-zooming.
http://www.friendsinyourhead.com/turnover/sabers
In the meantime, here's the "standard"-est combination — screen mode, in linear, at standard gamma.
Teague Chrystie
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I have a tendency to fix your typos.
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- Phi
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I'm pretty sure it was more of a fight when linear working space wasn't an option without installing something like eLin. Aww look, it's MasterZap laying down the math nearly ten years ago.
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Death to video gamma. Don't call it standard.
Death to screen blending.
It isn't 1996.
Do it right, you monsters.
Last edited by paulou (2014-12-03 06:05:32)
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*breathes in*
*realizes this is probably a really bad idea considering the decade long blood war this has involved*
And how is that Paulou?
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For dum-dums: Cmd+alt+shift+k in AE and checkbox "Blend colors using 1.0 gamma." Use Add.
For people that are ostensibly visual effects artists: Learn about the bummer fuckall legacy of video gamma, gamma encoding, and how your eyes react to light.
http://filmicgames.com/archives/299
http://www.francois-tarlier.com/blog/un … -workflow/
http://www.lysator.liu.se/~zap/lwf/
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As an outsider who knows very little about this ongoing battle, I must say I love that it exists.
Last edited by Sam F (2014-12-03 08:55:58)
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I have left jobs over this.
Last edited by paulou (2014-12-03 09:49:57)
- Tomahawk
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I agree with both Paulou and Teague, but since Owen isn't working in Linear Space, and also probably 8-bit, NEVER SET TO ADD.
But in a proper space, never set to screen.
The ideal method I found years ago, back when Aurellia was a thing(Kudos to the one person who remembers what THAT was!), and I made a preset of it too, was a combination of add and screen, with the latter comped over the prior. It gave, if I recall correctly, a crunchy look, whilst not blowing out over bright colours.
But it's fun to spark some life into 8 year old conversations that we all actually took part of and remember.