Topic: TRUMP!?! Good or bad? Let's do this!
This is a good time to do this because he now claims he has a 50% approval rating.
This forum is renown for its civility, restraint, and intellgence. I have every confidence we can all keep our cool.
I'm willing to give Trump a pass on his personality traits (constant lies, constant bragging, constant whining, constant changing his mind, love of dictators, corruption, nepotism, incompetence, unintellectualism, not of presidential dignity, lack of qualifications, etc)... if the workers of the USA are actually better off because of his policies.
There are three ways you can think about Trump - (1) his personal characteristics, (2) his policies, and (3) whether people are better off (whether deliberate or unintentionally).
Most of the oxygen in the media is sucked up by (1), there's a little bit of talk about (2) but hardly anything about (3).
So what do you guys think? Are people actually better off? And if so, is it because of Trump or despite of him?
Where I stand: I'm no Trump supporter (nor of Clinton). But I would rather have him than Dubya/Cheney/Rumsfeld who have a mountain of innocent bodies to their name. Northwards of 100,000! Some say a million as a result of the two wars, including thousands of Americans, still suiciding today.
Obama, by contrast only killed about 2,200 innocent people via his drone campaign (Terror Tuesdays) in Yemen, Pakistan, etc).
The stock market is up, but there's mainly due to share buybacks due to the tax cuts. Not sure if workers directly benefit from that. Just leads to increased inequality.
Any thoughts about the effects of the trade war with China? Low company tax rate? Increased border security? Is this increasing wages?