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Darth Praxus wrote:

For anyone who wanted the score and was disappointed that the docking scene wasn't part of it, there's good news and bad news and good news again. a.) The first good news is that Zimmer convinced his higher-ups to let him upload a version of that bit of the score to iTunes. b.) The bad news is that it's an alternate mix without organ, strings, etc. c.) The second good news is that a brave soul on Reddit managed to painstakingly piece together the correct mix and made it available as an mp3. Sound quality is quite good.

For anyone really really really into the score, Roger Sayer (who's the organist) is doing a lunchtime organ recital tomorrow on the Temple Church Organ (the one used in Interstellar)...

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/201 … usive.html

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So many questions:

1. Why did MM, from behind the bookshelf, beg "STAY" and then minutes later in an earlier time window, transmit the NASA coordinates that set up the events that lead to him leaving?
2. Why does the inside of the black hole look like a car wash?
3. So the black hole was just another worm hole? Is there a Hollywood black hole that is NOT a portal somewhere?
4. If it was humans from the future, why go back and alter the past when they've clearly overcome their predicament, otherwise there wouldn't be humans in the future?
5. If it was aliens, why help out in such an ambiguous way? 12 candidate systems, most not suitable.
6. Why are aliens spying on a young girl's bedroom from behind the books? Kinda creepy.
7. How can the watch Morse Code system work away from the bedroom?
8. Why does the gravitational anomaly only affect dust, drones, combine harvesters, watches, coins, etc but not life?Gravity affects ALL matter.
9.  MM wants to fling around a neutron star! What neutron star? We never see it again. And what sun is lighting this system?
10. MM is a pilot who claims he's never left that stratosphere. By the end, he's JJ Abrams-ing around a frigg'n black hole.
11. Why do the Rangers need a Saturn V to take off from Earth, but have no trouble getting off the tidal planet which is 130% of the gravity of Earth? And then it lands on another planet. And takes off again.
12. Why are all the instrument panels and controls so retro? Analogue dials, etc. Looks like 1950s technology. Yet they have AI robots, suspended animation, and are building Rama cylinders?
13. Didn't anyone think to check on Brande before Murph told MM to? Murph the old crone seemed to know Edmonds was dead. How? And why was Edmonds dead? Shouldn't he just be asleep waiting for everyone to rock up?
14. Why is the bandwidth so restricted back to earth? Does the alien ISP throttle upload?
15. Why is there a dramatic organ crescendo at the beginning when MM just looks out the window?
16. Would robots talk to each other with speech rather than a direct link? That's so Phantom Menace.
17. Almost all shots of the Ranger are from cameras seemingly attached to the fuselage, like this is a Found Footage movie. But the movie breaks this convention when it lands on the tidal planet. It's the only 'beauty shot' of the Ranger that you see.
18. Why is MM resigned that he has to wait for the engines to drain, allowing years to pass on Earth, but when the second wave comes, he suddenly remembers he can flush the engines with the cabin air?
19. So there's no other suitable planet in this galaxy? The Kepler mission found hundreds of exoplanets just in our local region of the galaxy. So our new home is in ANOTHER galaxy in a system with no sun, wedged between a neutron star and a black hole? If we don't get fried by radiation from the pulsar or burnt by the x-rays off the accretion disc, we'll be spaghettified by the tidal forces from the black hole. Real homely. What next on the new planet? They mostly come at night. Mostly.
20. Earth was a little dusty every now and then. But the brief glimpse we get of our new home is of a rocky desert planet. Does Cooper Station have a reverse gear?

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Rob wrote:

I saw the movie twice in two different theaters, an independent neighborhood theater in Chicago with digital projection and a big-ass multiplex with IMAX. Both times it wasn't that the music was too loud or too out in front but that much of the dialogue, particularly toward the beginning of the film, was simply inaudible. People in both theaters were frequently leaning over to each other asking "What'd he say?" I had problems making out what characters were saying. In the theaters I was in, you didn't have to be a pro audio engineer to know something was seriously wrong with the sound.

Likewise. I couldn't hear shit the first hour, music or not. And I was in the prime central position. The second hour was slightly better during the quieter moments. That was a 70MM presentation. Tomorrow I'm seeing it again in IMAX, but I guess I'll only know what they're saying once I get the blu-ray and put the frigg'n subtitles on.

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Understanding dialogue is so last decade...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2QO1q2IIAA4Yhp.jpg:large

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/no … pher-nolan

If Nolan wants to direct music videos for Zimmer, I've no problem with that.  yikes

Here's the final crescendo...

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Cinemagoers watching sci-fi blockbuster Interstellar have staggered out of the film after almost a quarter of a century to find that only a few hours had passed outside...

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts … 4111492780

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http://www.theonion.com/articles/whenev … -of,37362/

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These clowns add their 2c worth...

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The official response to my complaint re: inaudible dialogue...

Thank you for your e-mail regarding your recent visit to ODEON Leicester Square. We pride ourselves on the level of service and presentation that we provide t our guests, and we welcome any and all feedback, both positive and negative.

With regards to your visit - the sound mix on Interstellar has been a widely reported issue, around the world. From the first screening at TCL Chinese Theatre to regular screenings across the UK, guests have reported not being able to understand or make out large parts of the dialogue and the volume changing from being too loud, to too quiet and everything in between.

Here at ODEON Leicester Square, are equipment and presentation standards are kept to the highest level due to the number of premieres and special events that we host. As we held the European premiere for Interstellar, Warner Bros. were here for most of last week setting up and checking, with rehearsals most mornings to ensure the presentation was correct. These levels haven't changed since, with regular channel checks and white light checks to ensure that the projector output, both visually and audibly, is correct.

Warner Bros. have set up a specific web page to gather feedback on the various formats, so I'd advise you to head there and leave feedback as well.

http://www.interstellarmovie.com/quality/

I hope I have helped assure you that we are doing everything we can to ensure that the film is presented to you exactly as the film makers intended and any issues with that content/feature, should be passed onto the distributor.

If you have any other questions/concerns, please do get in touch.

Regards

Chris Tayler
Operations Manager
ODEON Leicester Square

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Phil Plait's (aka The Bad Astronomer) review of the science of Interstellar...

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_an … ivity.html

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WARNING - contains spoilers.

http://www.blastr.com/sites/blastr/files/o-INTERSTELLAR-TRAILER-facebook.jpg

Just saw it in a rare 70MM presentation at one of the biggest screens in London.

All the hype is justified: it's ambitious, cerebral, epic, an 'event movie', a new "2001" for the 21st century, with a lot of grand themes.

Zimmer's score was amazing - like an avante garde church organ in a cathedral. Although not the first time an organ has been used like that: Morricone used one in the lengthy zero-G transfer sequence in Mission to Mars.

I could only discern about 40% of the dialogue - did anybody else have an awful audio mix where sound effects and music drowned out the dialogue track? Even during important plot points. Gotta grab the script.

MM's acting was amazing, as we've come to expect. Very emotional at about 5-6 key moments.

Matt Damon's (stunt) casting was unnecessary. Sorta takes you out of the movie for a while. They could have cast a character actor for that role. And what he then proceeds to do, doesn't really make sense.

Typical Nolan editing: not much explanation to anything. He just expects you to hang on. For example it took me a while to realise there's a talking robot in the capsule with them.

Why could they take off from the second wave but not the first? Surely their analysis of the planet would let them know they'd be massive tidal waves if it's so close to a black hole? So what's producing the light in the system?

Are real practical effects better than CG, green screen, digital effects? A few years ago, unquestionably yes. But since Gravity, it's not so clear that practical IS ALWAYS better than well produced VFX. And it's not so clear that film projection is superior to a UHD digital projection.

Amazing to see such a short credits list for such a big movie. Hardly any CG artists. At the end of the Hobbit the credits seem to go for ages.

The science of Interstellar? Caltech professor Kip Thorne was advisor on the wormhole (just like in Contact) and black hole physics, which is all very speculative. The hole seemed to be portrayed with an accretion disc which normally emits a lot of harmful radiation. I didn't understand how the robot was supposed to transmit from the other side of the Event Horizon.
But anyway, in the end the black hole was actually another higher-dimension projection from aliens (or future humanity?) which was connected to the worm hole which was connected to Saturn. The last act was 'vague-d up' like 2001, so everyone will see it again and talk about what it means. Like Inception, it's a good way to double your box office.  big_smile

Dust bowl earth - didn't see much of the rest of the planet. The landscape looked okay on all the wide shots.
AI humour re: honesty settings. Yeah, as if you'd want anything less than 100% in survival situations.
Love as some cosmic divine force: evolutionary psychology has no problem accommodating why we still care about people who are deceased.

What was with the early drone sequence? Didn't seem to go anywhere or pay off?

So what was the solution that Cooper transmitted to his daughter via Morse code? Was that the most efficient way of communication?  That, and ghost-like book throwing? Not very sophisticated for 5D higher beings. Either information can get through or it can't.

Is the Rama tube around Saturn (Cooper Station) the solution to the emigration problem? Which planet were they moving to?

Loved the sentiments about always looking back into the past these days instead of the future, like we did 50 years ago. The golden age of forward-looking sci-fi is over. It's all Game of Thrones, Downton Abbey, Mad Men, Middle Earth, post-apocalypse, and hipster vintage/retro. Even Gravity was a 'period' film in that it featured the Shuttle.

I'll gather my thoughts more after a second viewing in another cinema with a (hopefully) better dialogue mix.

So what did y'all think?

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Darth Praxus wrote:

Just have everyone act normally until one of you casually references the third Ghostbusters movie that came out five years ago.

As in... "It's a pity Transformers 9 won Best Picture because I thought Ghostbusters 3 had a real chance"

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This comes as such a shock. I was just enjoying Mike's insights on the Pulp Fiction commentary as I was walking around Paris this week, Hang in there Mike. Like everyone here, I'm hoping to hear your voice again real soon. Our thoughts are with you, your family and the gang at FIYH.

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AshDigital wrote:

About Trey's other Asylum movie...  Release the documents or I'll start posting modified posters of all the Asylum films on the internet!

Trey Stokes 18-Year-Old Virgin
Trey Stokes Merlin and the War of the Dragons
Trey Stokes Princess of Mars
Trey Stokes Sharknado
Trey Stokes Titanic II (I'm putting my money on that one)

You forgot Megasharkocrocodinopocalypse III: Revenge of the Mutant Bikini Robot Alien Zombie Vampire Werewolves

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Dorkman wrote:
avatar wrote:

Imagine saying 'the problem with this movie is you' to Cameron. And then telling Jim his movie would be better if he stayed away.

I almost had a panic seizure just now.

http://i58.tinypic.com/2cpcpcj.gif

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ShadowDuelist wrote:

Guys, I did the math, and I'm pretty sure James Cameron is a puppet controlled by Trey. He actually used a double to play himself during the making of The Abyss to allay suspicion. That's why he's not happy with "his" puppet work on that movie, it wasn't actually his!

Imagine saying 'the problem with this movie is you' to Cameron. And then telling Jim his movie would be better if he stayed away.

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Trey wrote:

Every movie my name isn't on?

That was actually me.

We'll just have to wait until the posthumous Trey Stokes Signature Edition Blu-Ray Box Set to find out

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Now I'm intrigued to know about Trey's Alan Smithee projects. How many are there?

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Invid wrote:

There is a theory that just like circumcision was mandated to replace killing the first born male child, Jesus was sacrificed to replace replace circumcision AND animal sacrifices. God doesn't change what he needs, just the form it takes.

(it actually was a female wisdom goddess who demanded human sacrifice, and they got rid of her when they went to one god just before the Babylonian exile. Many, naturally, blamed tossing her out of the Temple for that disaster, so I'm sure there were some backsliders)

Naturally, you need some sacrifice because all humans are stained with the sin of Adam, cursed from birth. Obviously someone's gotta pay 'cos someone ate some fruit somewhere in the past 'cos the talking snake enticed them.  lol

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Invid wrote:

Listening to the episode again, there's a couple things. First, Noah isn't a Christian story. It's a JEWISH story.

No, it's a Babylonian story that the Hebrews ripped off while they were in exile in the 6th century BC.

The Babylonian account, recorded in the Epic of Gilgamesh, dates to at least another 1000 years BEFORE the Jewish version. It's got all the same ingredients. The Babylonians, in turn, probably developed the story from actual flooding in southern Iraq (Sumerian flood plain and birth of the first city states and origin of writing) where the Tigris and Euphrates converge.

Just this year, a new book came out by an Assyriologist from the British Museum, where several ancient cuneiform tablets are housed, recounting this earlier Flood myth...

http://britishmuseumblog.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/the-ark-before-noah_544.jpg

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1. I like Balin as a character, especially in AUJ. He's one of the few dwarves that has a distinct sympathetic personality rather than just being a retarded yobbo like most of the others. Thorin's oscillating love-hate relationship with Bilbo gets annoying, although he does have gravitas. Martin Freeman leaves me completely cold. It's an opaque performance - sometimes he seems to like being on the journey, other times he doesn't.

2. The biggest two mistakes: (1) unlike Fellowship, filming 95%+ in green-screen environments that look too artificial (2) extending the running time to around 9 hours, half of which seem to be all-CG, physics-free, consequence-less, PG13 "action" sequences that quickly become boring. I can understand PJ wants to control the environment in keeping production studio-based, but there's a cost to pay in realism. Lessons from the Star Wars prequels weren't learned. And I can understand milking the franchise for 2 more films. And why not? After the magic of the original trilogy, who doesn't want to spend more time in Middle Earth? But in hindsight - everything feels flat: the characters, the action, the dialogue... even the score.

3. They were memorable scenes, both in the book and in the movies. Like Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, we're entering an age where performance-driven CG characters can, given enough time/rendering/artistry, surpass the acting of humans. I'd rather watch Smeagol than Sam Worthington. Yes, those two scenes enhanced the movies by being first-rate VFX set-pieces, but I don't think the scenes advanced character development.

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http://hollywoodandswine.com/ruling-sum … eal-devil/

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Rob wrote:

There should be a Stonecutters-type secret society of directors who started as great and progressively got worse. The Downhill Club. (Shamaylan's the chairman.)

Ridley Scott, George Lucas, Peter Jackson, Martin Scorsese. Love ya early work dudes.

The usual trajectory is a bell curve - start off small, work your way up to greatness, and then decline as the brain's creativity ossifies. Prediction: Fincher, Nolan, and Aronofsky will follow this path too (some would say they already have).

The average director has about 10 good years in him (where budget and peak creativity intersect). Anything longer is a bonus. There are exceptions (e.g. Kubrick, Spielberg), but I'm talking about the majority.

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The Rosetta craft arrived at the comet today. And here it is...

http://planetary.s3.amazonaws.com/assets/images/9-small-bodies/2014/20140806_Comet_on_3_August_2014.png

The exogorth must be hiding on the right hand side.

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