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Moved from the Release Thread discussion.

Doctor Submarine wrote:

That's reflected in the titles. Dark Knight is the only title of the trilogy without a verb, and the only one (so far, at least) where Batman doesn't change as a person. Maybe Batman will develop as a character in Rises.

You're joking right? He goes from thinking he's BATMAN, the sole savior and hope of gotham city, to realizing that he can't keep doing it forever, and that Harvey can do it better. He comes to within a hairs breadth of letting Harvey take over, before the Joker comes in and forces Bruce to keep being Batman, not because Bruce needs it, but because Gotham needs Batman.

That's not character growth? His entire perspective on what Batman is and stands for, shifts. He just doesn't "keep being Batman".

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Posted in the actual Dark Knight Thread.

AWAAAAY.

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I don't really have much of an opinion on this one other than I just flat out love it. And apparently to most of the free world (And this community) that makes me a bad person.

So I'm intently curious as to how this one turns out.

(The main thing that confuses the hell out of me is the Plot hole mini gun that always gets leveled at this one by EVERYONE I ever try to talk to about it. And I just don't see them, at all. And even more curious I can never actual get any one to actually TELL ME what these supposed plot holes are.)

So who knows this might turn into a Phantom Menace thing with me.

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Jeffery Harrell wrote:

Am I the only weirdo in the room who just can't get next to Breaking Bad? I gave it a fair shake, watched the whole first season on Netflix and a bit of the second, but I just wasn't hooked. I didn't enjoy the time I was spending with any of those characters.

Shrug.

It's weird, I freaking loooove the show, but I HAAAATE most of the characters. And it's because it's designed that way. Theonly character I even remotely like (For the first couple seasons) is Walt. Everyone else is just there to get in his way, and ultimately drive him to the life of crime, because they are soooo annoying/infuriating or otherwise just aggravating. Every episode I was just begging Walt to shoot them all and embrace the criminal inside. Of course in the later seasons that all gets thrown on it's head and suddenly they all become characters that you sort of care about/ actually sorta help Walt in their own twisted way.

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Dave wrote:

Life is to short to not have folk/viking metal crossover.

/presses play/

Awesome, always love strings and metal.

/guy starts singing/

http://cdn.head-fi.org/d/da/da0dcd67_rainbow-vomit.jpg

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How did I miss that one of the Conchords wrote the songs for The Muppets?!

Zarban wrote:

Curtis Armstrong is the character who seems to deserve no sympathy, then gains redemption by giving Amy Earhart an opportunity (moral: don't judge a book by its cover).

This I get, I misread your first statement as being about the same character, not 2 different descriptions of 2 separate characters.

Zarban wrote:

She doesn't just coast; she explains her goals...

1: The only reason we even know she's an actress is that he guesses it and she never actually confirms it, he stops her before then. And the only other hint of it we get is her little funny voice she does before he enters. But seriously, my kid sister does that and she's studying to be a librarian, so it's not exactly a huge clue in.
2:Before that all she does is let the guy use the bathroom and sit down because that's what her character would do anyway(She didn't know he was /Meridian/ at the time.). Granted when she does find out she goes into full suck up mode, but by that point he's already made up his mind, and she didn't have to do anything.

Zarban wrote:

She starts out outwardly irritable and conflicted about her life and, when she discovers the twist, becomes kinder and is freed from her conflict.

Zarban wrote:

We should come away with the feeling that she'll forever be in Curtis Armstrong's debt and should be less of a bitch. The subtext is "You've got moxie!" and "Gosh, deep down, you're an okay guy. I'll never forget you."

"Should" being the keyword. She discovers the twist, walks out the door and leaves a dead body in the diner, possibly mentally scarring her co worker for a good long time, puts on the sunglasses like she's already a movie star, waits for the scream, smiles, and walks away with a sarcastic comment. That's not a kinder person, that's a psychopath.

EDIT: I'm honestly not trying to be a dick, I just don't see it, and am trying really really hard to.

But then I won't get the pot of gold from the super famous movie guy, cause obviously being an asshole is the only way to actually achieve anything.

Zarban wrote:

Check out a short film called Double Shot, where a character who seems to deserve no sympathy achieves redemption. The protagonist is conflicted about the direction of her life and gains hope and opportunity thru that character's act.

So I watched it...and when I finished it all I could think was "Not sure if Zarban serious."

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The character doesn't change, and is hardly redeemed, if anything she just gains a reason to stop pretending to not be a bitch. And the only reason that happens is because she got extremely fucking lucky. I'll give you it happens because of her innate character traits, but it's not by anything she actually chooses to do. She's just sort of coasting through the short, being herself, and then suddenly hey, that guy actually is something you didn't think he was and that means you get the pot of gold...... And she gets to be the bitch she always wanted to be.

Not exactly the non sympathetic to sympathetic character arc you made it out to be. If anything it's basically what I was talking about of just being in the moment watching things happen. The only "Why did you tell me that?" reason I can find for that is "To watch this bitchy character get a job and become even more of a bitch."

So alright...

Yeah, well that's my point. That's the question you ask a Spine style movie, and the only answer I can give to that is "To watch this character grow and change." And I'm not sure if that's really worth anything.

And did you know what I meant, yeah, so fuck you.

I am, but I wanted to throw the idea up for debate. See what this rather large collective of filmmakers has to say on the subject.

That's the best title I could come up with, sue me.

I've been trying to write some short films lately, nothing specific just write. And I find I keep coming back to the same central concept for them.

DiF has infamously pegged a Kubrickian style film as one that will just throw you in the middle of the action and allow you to just experience it for yourself. But DiF also talks a lot about having a spine for your movie, (That central theme or moral that your movie surrounds itself around). And when I'm writing I keep coming back to this whole idea of just throwing the audience into the scene and watching as the character goes through whatever events happen and watching them change and grow. But there isn't any real spine to the story, it's just watching this human being change by what's happening. (In one case the character starts off literally as a blank slate and as it progresses the character evolves out of the events she has to live through.

Is there any real merit to that style of storytelling or am I just bad at this?

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Any word on when we'll get more Harry Potter? It's been a while.

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Heehee, I love going back and listening to episodes I missed and randomly hear my name come up in conversation! Thanks Teague.

EDIT: So not a good episode to watch at work. I'm sitting at my desk trying not to burst out laughing or crying. Way to pull it off at the end Brian. Amazing.

Wow, just watched the short film. That was incredible. I concur with Drew.

Also, that guy really needs to be in more stuff.

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When I discovered that they had done a full version of this, I nearly squealed in joy. And I was at work...it was awkward.

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I was randomly browsing imdb today and I came across...this...

I'll ah...I'll just leave this here...yeeeeaah...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0272147/

The Big Year

The only reason I even know this movie exsist is because a list of the 10 biggest flops of last year was being passed around and this movie was on it. Which completely blows my mind, because it is simply amazing. Yes it's true, every single gods damned comedian on the face of the planet is in this thing and they are all unequiviqobly outstanding.

I've been struggling to figure out how to descibe this one, and the best I've come up with is; imagine that the book in Adaptation, The Orchid Thief, was actually about birding. And this is the movie that Adaptation should have been. It's quite literally a love song to birding, but with these amazing, soulful characters. I know personally by the end of the movie, I had fallen in love with birds and these characters.

It's a very strange thing, and I havn't felt it a very long time, to fall so completely in love with a character, let alone an entire cast of characters. But thats what this movie did to me, every single person in this movie feels like a real human being, even Owen Wilson, while stilling doing his arrogant prick Owen Wilson thing is rooted and grounded and the character is a living breathing human being that obviously cares about things. I just yeah, it's hard to describe, but the script is great and everyone in this is bringing thier A-game plus a little more.

It also sort of harkens back to a lot of 80's comedies for me, specifically Christmas Vacation. While there's certainly a lot of very very funny moments, there is also a LOT of heart to this movie. And I think thats the best way to put it really, this movie has an incredible amount of heart to it, a lot more than I've seen in a very long time.

I, yeah, it's just an outstanding, and amazing movie. Easily my favorite Jack Black performance (he's essentially the main character and provides all the voice over narration, and it's beautiful, it really is), Steve Martin is amazing as always, and where Owen Wilsons character ends up by the end is just heartbreaking. And yeah, every one else is amazing.

I'm fairly certain this is a movie everyone here would love, go watch it.

MI3: Tom Cruise runs really really hard while JJ does his best to Abrams all over the place.

It was fun; great villain (who sounds exactly like John Goodman, never noticed that before), and a shitton of people I know from something else.

I can now consider myself prepped and ready for MI4, bring it on bitches!

I'll definitely have to check that one out. I really liked that actor too, (Although not at all like the Wood of the books, it worked... considering he was actually in the frickin thing all of about 30 secs).

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Yeeeah, I really need to get around to playing these games.

MI2, obviously subtitled: "John Woo's Suck My Giant Slo-Mo Cock"

It yeah, it is what is, I guess. Although 2 things struck me while watching it, first, damn that chick looks EXACTLY like Zoe Saldana. And secondly my brain sort of exploded a bit when I realized (After imdbing) that the guy who plays the blondish haired bad guy that gets his finger sliced, is the same guy who played The Duke in Moulin Rouge.

So yeah, that was a thing.

Moving on.

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Whenever I'm sad, I watch this, then I'm not sad anymore.

Unicycles, bicycles, trampolines, beards, pointy moustaches and shiny velvet shirts. Need I say more?

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Somebody threw this out there in the chat today, and I thought it sounded awesome. So DiFverse, show us your pets!

Finally got around to watching Mission Impossible.

Yep, I get it.

I'm sure the next 3 will be viewed in very short succession.