Went back and forth about releasing this one for months, because at the time we recorded it, Chris and Chad were nigh unknown DIF entities. But after a couple weeks of Hanel-ing, I figure you're ready for the supremely magnificent UHF discussion.
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Went back and forth about releasing this one for months, because at the time we recorded it, Chris and Chad were nigh unknown DIF entities. But after a couple weeks of Hanel-ing, I figure you're ready for the supremely magnificent UHF discussion.
Written by Pegg and Frost. Didn't find out until the end, and wish I had known during the advertising period not that it was "directed by the director of Superbad," but "written by the writers of Shaun of the Dead."
Then again, a good deal of my appreciation might have been the whim viewing, with no pre-conceived notions.
Schrodinger's movie. By commenting on it, I might ruin it for you. If you haven't seen it, watch it. It's not a spoiler thing, it's a "where did that come from" thing. Go. Spend the time.
I shouldn't tell you that The Emperor's New Groove is the funniest, freshest Disney movie ever, and I shouldn't tell you that Paul goes on my shelf next to Galaxy Quest. You'd go in expecting "New Groove" to be hysterical, and you'd, frankly, go into "Paul" expecting it to be Galaxy Quest. Neither is fair to the movie in question, and neither represents that state of mind I had going in.
But until we do a DIF, or someone here tells me a reason not to put it there... Paul is right there next to Galaxy Quest. It's not a satire of Star Trek...it's somehow, pre-emptively, a satire of the choice JJ Abrams made in doing Super 8. JJ: "I wish to capture the emotions of those kids like me had watching old-school 80's 'children discover aliens' movies!" ... uh huh. Pegg and Frost: "It's a satire of the people who want to see Super 8." Gotcha.
Decided to watch this movie on an absolute, advertising-free whim with Cloe tonight. I was delighted. Paul himself is fine, and Rogen does a fine job, but generally speaking...this is just the epic conclusion to the Pegg/Frost trilogy. "What happens when two guys who love zombie movies encounter zombies?" "What happens when Michael Bay tells a story about renegade cops in Britain?"
"What happens when two guys fresh out of Comic-Con meet E.T., and E.T. is on their level?"
Sigh. Anyone else see it? Thoughts? Am I alone?
See, this is where we differ.
I am not glad you didn't end up buying that model and displaying it in your room.*
*mostly because I wouldn't have been embarrassed when the director was in your room, and would have gotten the full, hilarious story of how he stormed out in disgust
Well, first, a word on our involvement. Our five judges are the official judges for the competition, and we award the top three places in the "official" vote. There is also an audience/popular vote that we take no part in.
The extent of our input on the competition is that I work with Juan (the actual "head" of the operation) to get all of the entries early and pick a day we can do the show, and prepare all of the assets and the set-up for the broadcast, and the boys watch and review the films on their own and make their decisions. Additionally, we (Down in Front) donate half of the value of the prize, and Ryan / Sabershop donates half of the value of the prize, and award it to the chosen winner. The prize is actually not associated with or mandated by the LCC proper - it's just a thing we do. That's us, not the LCC.
Beyond that, we don't make the rules, deadlines, or decide on the criteria of the judging.
As I'm not even a judge, my opinion here doesn't matter. But I have been thinking about it lately, especially because a dude on TFN has raised the same issue. Here's my unformed thoughts.
This year and last year I had my own guess as to who would win, and both years I was wrong, and both years I chose the most filmy entry. (Well, last year I guessed Nate would win - just because his entry was more storyish than JediPastor's bad-ass 300 fight.) This year I thought it'd be DX6Channel, with his light whips and multiple baddies. In both cases, an entry that didn't actually impress me at first glance won. (This is why I'm not a judge, I'm easily distracted away from choreography if something shiny is going on.)
But it betrays what I like to see, which is cool lightsaber fight movies, not cool lightsaber fights. The problem I can imagine is that it's much harder to award a winner, or at least it's a slippery slope, when you say "the winner is the person with the best movie." When it's guys who have seen a lot of lightsaber fights and have done and are recognized for their own high-quality lightsaber fights, judging those fights on their fightiness is pretty straightforward. "You did this poorly, you did this really well." If you open it up to a general filmmaking competition that happens to be predicated on fights, how do you justify choosing Zack Snyder's completely gorgeous, stunningly edited shitty fight over Yuen Woo-ping's crappy looking, technically outstanding fight?
It's not like you've reached an impossible paradigm wherein objectivity can't be attained, but you are dealing with an entirely different ball game.
What I guess I'm saying is, I agree with your outlook and that I'd rather see the really awesome all-arounders get credit for their, well, extra-credit. But on the other hand, while you might be persuaded to enter if you thought you'd have a solid chance because you can make a glorious short, someone else might not because their only hope was their actual choreography skills. Perhaps not for all, but certainly for many, the fact that we have a common denominator criteria that is judged by folks training their eyes to focus purely on that encourages them to give it a shot. The spirit of "just do it!" is something that weaves back into the early days of the contest, and is liable to be lost if the kid who'd respond "alright! I'll try!" is dissuaded because he knows Zack Snyder is entering this year. "Aw, shucks," he says. "Why bother."
I don't know. I'm glad it's not my call. I guess the bigger question is, why do we have the contest at all? If we were to start a similar contest now, how would it work, taking into consideration the state of the online filmmaking community in 2011, and setting aside the nostalgia we have for the online filmmaking community of 2002. It's a bit too wistful to imagine a contest where the rules are chosen to encourage amateurs to enter alongside professionals, but that's what we currently have, and I love that aspect of it.
Like I said, unformed thoughts. I don't know. Fuckin' lightsaber competitions, how do they work.
Hey, it's all the main folks from Down in Front doing commentary for lightsaber fights for two hours.
Can you imagine anything more awesome? (I actually figure most folks here won't care to watch, but hey, it's a thing.)
Yeah, it'll be up again soon.
Yessir, thanks.
It occurred to me today that I can also record the video (and thereby audio) straight out of our broadcast program. I just uploaded an 1:47:00 video to YouTube.
...which I guess we could do with DIF, if anyone wanted us to, but. Eh.
Well, tomorrow we're not doing a commentary, we're judging the annual lightsaber thing - and afterwards recording a special, non-Down in Front thing to be announced when we record it, I guess.
But to answer your question, we start doing things at noon PST.
Yeah, the mic line-in to the recorder got yanked out somehow.
Torrents? Maybe? I don't know how big the underground Asylum film-trading scene is.
I'd like to live in a world where it is handled exclusively by the directors of said films.
Welcome to the forum, sonnyjim, it's about time.
I appreciate it. Tomorrow we're going to start playing with different recording systems to see if we can find a more stable one, so hopefully we don't need the back-up, but if by god's fucking will something goes wrong, your recording will be good to have.
Tomorrow we're doing our second annual live judging thing for the Lightsaber Choreography Competition, but we might be sneaking in a special little something afterward. I'll let you know today.
Hey, thanks! Here's a pic for the uninitiated.
It's doubly adorable imagining that conversation in polite-old-lady Scottish.
I'll get to it today. It's not a real site yet.
That it was Phil Tippet was the only reason I felt compelled to share it here, so I guess you getting the joke was never part of the equation.
I just keeding.
*wearing a bow tie*
Shabams.
The DIF kit, such as it is, goes like this.
Four microphones go into the mixer board.
The output line is split between the laptop and a second splitter. That splitter breaks off into the broadcast line-out, which goes over to the laptop handling the webcam, and the headphones. (Which means more splitters, two in fact.) The result is four headphones being connected.
So,
Output
Splitter - Laptop, Splitter
Splitter 2 - broadcast laptop, two more splitters that branch out into four headphone cables.
In that case, everybody hold off on donating.*(*) First thing we're gonna try is Mike's laptop with a better program. If that fails, we have a personal recorder that Brian owns. If that fails, we'll get the Zarban thing.
*Zarban, we'll pay you back retroactively with three years of commentaries. MOTHER FUCKER WE KILL YOU{*}
*(*)Everybody still donate, for fuck's sake, I'm just saying we're not gonna buy the toy yet.
*{*} Zarban, if you want your money back, I'll order you a pizza.
Complex use of asterisks is about to be my new favorite thing.
Well, I can keep an eye on the donation inbox and let y'all know when we've reached $120 or so, which is what they seem to cost at most vendors, so nobody would have to set up a special account or anything.
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