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Hansen wrote:

The Gunslinger – Stephen King
I read the Original (not revised) edition of this one and it didn't grab me the way I thought it would. It's decent enough, but I'm in no rush to read the other Dark Tower books (not that I would have read them next anyway, since I'm going through King's entire bibliography in order). This actually felt like a substantial step backwards in terms of the quality of King's actual writing; there might be more unnecessary adverbs in this one book than in all the other King books I've read combined. Maybe I'd just hyped myself up too much before reading this, it might grow on me in time though.

Worth noting that, despite the publication order, it's essentially his first novel.

Lately I've read:

Packing for Mars - as good as Trey said, although very little to actually do with Mars. It's more a general book about the challenges and history of space exploration with a bit of "And the trip to Mars is even longer, so it would be even worse" tacked on at the end of each section. Still a very cool book.

The Self-Made Myth - a brief book rebutting the myth of the self-made American, showing how it's actually our collectivism that makes us successful. Kind of superficial, actually; for a really meaty, deeply-sourced history I would recommend The Way We Never Were instead. But a handy, and timely, primer on the subject.

The Magicians - this book was a complete waste of time. I appreciate what it seemed like Grossman was doing -- basically writing an anti-Harry Potter about how even with magic, life is bullshit and people suck -- but it made for a dull, meandering read. He also pulled the punch at the end and decided to make it an evil-battling adventure after all, but too little too late. Not only am I not interested even a little in the sequel, but if it were possible to pay extra money to un-read a book, I would.

I'm currently reading The Eye of the World, since the Wheel of Time series is at last completed and I can power  straight through without enduring the waiting of long-suffering fans like my roommate, though I'll probably take breaks in between anyway. Also listening to This Book is Full of Spiders.

Next up, I think, will be my reconciliation with Stephen King through 11/22/63, though I haven't decided if that will be a read or a listen. That'll warm me up for The Wind Through the Keyhole.

I knew it was Meyer and the trailer still kinda sold me. Andrew Niccol is good and they make a pretty big point of saying he wrote the script, so there's a good chance he took what was good about the story and rinsed off the Meyer.

Well, they could always discard the source entirely and just keep the title for the recognition factor. Wouldn't be the first time.

Mr. Pointy wrote:

You guys need to start talking about what route's you'd take to these places to really make this a Californians SNL sketch tongue

I'd take the 101 to the 134, though for Teague it's a straight shot up Magnolia.

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White's tendency to use big words and obscure references doesn't impress me largely because he's clearly trying so hard to be impressive and assure everyone he's the smartest guy in the room, and I think he likes to be contrarian so that he can make claims to seeing what others don't because, again, he's so much smarter than they are. This seems clear from the fact that, from the reviews I've read, he spends almost as much time brow-beating other movie critics as he does actually saying mad things about the film in question.

Remember the NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS commentary where I made it a running gag about it being communist propaganda? That's all White does, except he'd actually go out and watch some obscure communist-era films so he could name-drop them. It's all self-inflating nonsense. Give me a week with the more obscure titles in the Criterion collection and I could write a review just as "impressive" and "insightful" (and insane) about MOVIE 43 or HERE COMES THE BOOM.

Did White come up in the video? I didn't bother to watch it past the cutaway to his "I just discovered Godard and everything mainstream is insipid trash" buddy.

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Armond White is a cultural critic in the same way as the raving homeless guy screaming about the gubmint on a street corner is a political pundit.

EDIT: Although, given the state of political punditry, maybe that's a bad analogy since the homeless guy actually is on about the same level.

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RE: the topic -

No. Next question.

I'm going to see pretty much everything (hooray MoviePass). But the movies I'm curious about (not to say I expect they'll all be good...), in release order:

Warm Bodies
The Sorceror and the White Snake
A Good Day to Die Hard
Jack the Giant Slayer
Oz: The Great and Powerful
The Incredible Burt Wonderstone
Upside Down
The Croods
G.I. Joe: Retaliation
The Host
The Evil Dead
Oblivion
jOBS
Iron Man 3
Star Trek Into Darkness
After Earth
Now You See Me
Man of Steel
World War Z
Kick-Ass 2
Lone Ranger
Pacific Rim
R.I.P.D
The Wolverine
300: Rise of an Empire
Elysium
Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters
Riddick
I, Frankenstein
Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2
Sin City: A Dame to Kill For
Gravity
OldBoy
Carrie
Left Behind
Thor: The Dark Worlds
The Hunger Games: Catching Fire
Bad Santa 2
The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug

Zarban wrote:

[Synechdoche] was brutal. I had to stop it from time to time to gather the patience to go on. I'm sure it had some kind of point, but wow was it lost on me.

I like most of Charlie Kaufman's other stuff, tho.

Team What The Fuck Just Happened At My Face! Woo!

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Trey wrote:
iJim wrote:

And what was with his "screenwriting 101 crowd" jab? What, do they teach you how to forget screenwriting 101 in screenwriting 305?

We've said often that you need to learn the rules of an art form before you go about breaking them - so at least you know when you're breaking them.   Johnson clearly knows the "rules", I gather he believes they aren't always that critical, or at least shouldn't take precedence above all else.

As opposed to the screenwriting 101 crowd (what I'd call the Save The Cat crowd), who believe the rules are ironclad and if you so much as bend one you might as well set yourself on fire, you amateur. Rather than looking at the full tapestry of a story and asking, "does it work? Why/why not?" they mindlessly follow a checklist without even understanding what half of it signifies.

As you can see, I share Johnson's antipathy for this particular "creative" population. The 101 jab usually references not all the people who are new to something, but the people who take one basic course in a subject and believe they've suddenly become an expert. Philosophy 101ers are especially ugh.

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Eddie wrote:

There are many more effective ways of telling a murder mystery than against the setting of a High School in a bizarro, post modern Dashell Hammet motif, but I'll be damned if I don't love Brick.

Talking about setting/tone is not even the same thing as talking about plot/story.

Eddie wrote:

I think he took a theme he really liked (atoning for one's sins and the ability to overcome yourself) placed it in a world in which he wanted to explore (sci fi time travelling assasins) and made the plot work AS BEST HE COULD from there.  But when push came to shove, he wasn't going to sacrifice some of the elements in order to put a bow on the plot.

My contention is that those elements wouldn't have to be sacrificed to do so, although some things would. But we all have to kill our darlings for the sake of the story sometimes.

Eddie wrote:

I get why it doesn't work for Mike, but I was totally fine with it, because the emotion of it was so authentic that I could get past the, by Mike's own admission, nitpick with the logic.

The logic of the time travel is a nitpick. I mean, it has MASSIVE problems but so does BTTF. The logic of people's behavior and the flow of the story, on the other hand, is fundamental, and where I think BTTF soars and LOOPER stumbles.

Obviously YMMV with any movie. Some people loved this flick unreservedly. But for me, the storytelling was messy enough to get in the way of the authenticity of the emotion. The lack of a solid story throughline translated into a lack of emotional throughline, for me.

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I still don't think we really addressed my question, which is why he felt the most powerful way to tell the "Selfish guy becomes selfless" story was to have him hide out on a farm for an hour with Emily Blunt and Psychic Toddler Hitler, but at that point I figured we both had better things to do than try to debate it in 140 character chunks.

I think what he said that really sums it up is when he said "I honestly don't understand your question." I really don't think he does. Not that I think he's dumb or doesn't "get" it, but he legitimately doesn't see anything wrong with the style of storytelling embodied in LOOPER, where pretty much anything goes if it facilitates the thematic undercurrent, logic or plot be damned. I personally think it's sloppy, but he might argue that's exactly what appeals to him -- real life is sloppy and things don't all tie neatly together.

It's just a fundamental difference in view of how stories are most effectively told, which we weren't going to sort out over Twitter -- nor can it be ignored (though he was classy enough to do so) that, of the two of us, his view is the one currently making him a fine living. So, if it ain't broke.

Very cool of him to engage and have the discussion though. Easily could have just ignored us.

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You're right, though, that Disney does deserve credit for what they're doing. We talk about them feeding us Star Wars until we die, but at least they respect us enough to generate new Star Wars content for us to consume. They could easily have just put out T-shirts of Mickey dressed as Luke and kept re-releasing the existing films in 3D and on Blu-ray and in 4K and upside down and inside out. They may be milking a cash cow, but at least they're trying to give us fresh milk instead of trying to sell us the old milk again and again.

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Jimmy B wrote:

Cloud Atlas and Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter were based on books

As was DRIVE.

He also lists "remakes" under the "original" category... :forshame:

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I don't think you'll hate it, but you might develop a sad.

What if Hansel and Gretel, after surviving their ordeal in the gingerbread house, dedicated their lives to ridding the world of witches? The latest in the current vogue of dark and gritty takes on fairy tales, HANSEL & GRETEL: WITCH HUNTERS — like all the others in the trend — had promise as a concept. And, like the others in the trend, it had no idea what to do with it.

Were it not for the presence of Jeremy Renner and reasonably solid production value, you could easily have convinced me that this was a direct-to-video or SyFy Channel offering. But no, that’s unfair — SyFy Channel movies at least have a sense of campy fun, which this film sorely lacks. Instead of embracing the inherent silliness of the concept — of acknowledging and running with the sheer ridiculousness — HANSEL & GRETEL tries so hard to convince you it’s not silly, no sir; it’s actually badass, like WANTED or something.

But their witch-hunting gear and tactics are dull and unimaginative — the action beats mostly consist of sneaking up on witches in the woods and getting into fistfights with them — and the only even slightly tongue-in-cheek H&G joke is a plot point about Hansel needing regular insulin injections, because he contracted diabetes from the incident at the Gingerbread House.

(I frankly wonder how much the writer even bothered to study the story for inspiration — there’s no reference to the trail of breadcrumbs, but there’s a reference to someone’s porridge being “just right.” Look, movie. Either you’re going to do the wink-wink-nudge-nudge fairy tale tomfoolery or you’re not. You can’t just throw in a single reference and call it a day. Go all in or don’t go at all.)

At 88 minutes, it’s on the short end of the feature spectrum. I’ve seen some 90-ish minute movies lately that felt like they were three hours, so on the one hand it was a relief to watch a movie that didn’t drag its feet. Unfortunately, one of the reasons it feels like a quick film is because it’s so superficial, racing through the plot, introducing characters and plotlines and dismissing them on a whim. Peter Stormare is wasted here, and the film still feels like it’s in the “setting the stage” first act even as it ramps up to the climax. It tries to be an “edgy” take on the material by going for over-the-top violence and gore, but without a satirical story or clever execution as a foundation, the flying viscera just feels ugly and mean.

There are no characters to root for, no exciting action, no cleverness, no wit, no fun, and no point. What there is, is an overwhelming sense of been there, done that. Don’t bother.

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BBQ wrote:

Jackson for a new trilogy

It makes me sad that my immediate gut reaction to this idea is "Ew, no."

BBQ wrote:

JJ's not really known for his range of "looks".

This is interesting to me. I'm hearing this a lot but nobody was raising this as an issue when Fincher was the rumored choice, and his movies look WAY more similar to each other than JJ's do.

Personally, I think SUPER 8 shows JJ is very capable of emulating an aesthetic while still making a modern film, so having him on Ep7 is one of our best shots of having a film that actually feels like the original trilogy. As long as he doesn't bring in Orci/Kurtzman/Lindelof to mess with the Arndt script I think we're in good hands.

BBQ wrote:

*LENS FLARE*

Ugh. Guys. This joke burned down 20 years ago.

This goes against your point, by the way, as the lens-flare-heavy STAR TREK was a very distinct "look" compared to MI:3 and SUPER 8 (the latter of which had some anamorphic flaring but nothing like the deliberately blinding nature of TREK's).

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It's the witch! Burn him!

(Welcome to the forum.)

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MasterZap wrote:

So here's what I liked about the end of this.

Dredd *passes* her for a very obvious reason... yet they do not state it. Just like before, it is all glances.

And if you missed the reason? She does NOT lose her primary weapon.... she just loses the gun.

Her primary weapon being - obviously - he Psi abilities.

Eh, I like it better if he passes her despite the fact she "failed" according to certain parameters, rather than on an unstated technicality. You may be right that this was the intention, though. I also prefer my personal interpretation of AMERICAN PSYCHO to the movie the director, on the commentary, says she was making.


EDIT: I went to check out the script to see if there was an indication whether they might have intended this or not, and hey what do you know, Trey called it: there WAS supposed to be a shootout leveraging the slo-mo factory, although not quite Trey's version -- Dredd and Anderson were going to take a big tank of the stuff up to Ma-Ma's and shoot it open, overdosing all the bad guys but using their (established earlier) respirators not to get hit themselves.

It was probably cut for budget and for being essentially the same beat as the drug bust earlier; personally I like Trey's idea better.

Interestingly, the dead man's switch thing is NOT in the script I've got. Ma-Ma gets the drop on Dredd tries to shoot him, and he breaks her gun hand and punches her in the face repeatedly -- pausing only to hit her with slo-mo -- until finally punching her through a window.

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http://i.imgur.com/ZVyId18.jpg

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We did it, you guys.

http://www.comicvine.com/news/dredd-top … ts/145864/

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Doctor Submarine wrote:

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It might as well have been the doctor

Oh, that would have been WAY better.

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Doctor Submarine wrote:

The character of the aunt in particular stands out as completely unnecessary and annoying. She contributes nothing thematically, and every time she shows up the movie grinds to a halt. She’s not a major character, but in a rewrite I would have gotten rid of her.

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She was "necessary" in the sense that Mama possessing her (and apparently then knowing how to drive) was a contrivance by which the story could get back to the cabin in the climax. Sure, Mama could have just flown them there or maybe teleported them through her wall-vaginas, but then they would have gotten there too fast and there would have been no reason for her to wait long enough to kill them for the other characters to arrive.

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johnpavlich wrote:

I argue that Die Hard 2 is a perfectly fine film and is only "bad" whenever it makes reference to itself as a sequel.

That's the feeling I get from the new one's trailers. It seems like a fun, over-the-top actioner, perfectly acceptable as long as we don't try to pretend it takes place in the same world, with the same rules and characters, as DIE HARD.

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iJim wrote:

I'm reading The Hot Zone... Omg, you guys. It's horrifying. If you have a strong stomach and are interested in the Ebola virus this is the book for you. But seriously. OMG.

Oh fuck. I read the first couple chapters back when it came out and nearly gave myself psychosomatic ebola.

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The VFX Predictinator has called it for LIFE OF PI.

http://fxrant.blogspot.com/2013/01/the- … ademy.html