And, a fair question raised in the previous thread: who better? It's a serious question. We can acknowledge that Joss' perspective on women is still problematic, but just because he's not the end of the path doesn't mean he's not a step along it -- and is anyone further along that can serve as a role model?

I just want to reiterate again that this conversation arose due to Black Widow's treatment in the marketing materials, not Black Widow's treatment in the film.

The women are presented in a way that is gratifying toward men primarily, or even exclusively. I.E. men are treated superior (they are not required to be objects of gratification primarily) and their desires are the dominant concern. I.E. sexism as defined.

Right. Sexism exists outside of comics, too. That doesn't make it not exist in comics, which is the topic at hand.

Yes, actually.