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Gregory Harbin wrote:

I'm sure Scott…Steve…Frogurt, whatever his name is, could speak to why trailer editors have to use themes from earlier movies in trailers, and what forces end up making the same five themes be used over and over.

Get 'im in here!

Epic theme is epic, and already exists. It's a lot cheaper than either rolling out your soundtrack a year before the film comes out, or scoring the trailer separately.

Not to mention Marketing couldn't give less a damn about losers like me that find it a little tasteless.

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Might be around. Went down for the weekend last year for Tim and Eric's Awesomecon Field Day and go to that big zoo.

There should be some DiF drinkmeets in LA once in a while too.

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Seeing as Mansell's had his Requiem for a Theme jacked into more promos than any piece of recognizable score in recent years, guess it's appropriate to ask if anyone else hates that trend of using themes from other films in trailers?

That new everyone-conspires-against-Matt-Damon-movie trailer uses the theme from Sunshine. Arrrghh.

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downinfront wrote:

Interesting point, Jeffrey, but remember that the sun is a mass of incandescent gas, a giant nuclear furnace, where hydrogen is built into helium at a temperature of millions of degrees.

http://partyends.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/they_might_be_giants_02.jpg

TMBG - Why Does The Sun Really Shine? wrote:

The Sun is a miasma of incandescent plasma.
The Sun's not simply made out of gas, no, no, no.
The Sun is a quagmire, it's not made of fire,
Forget what you've been told in the past.

PLASMA!
Forget that song.
PLASMA!
They got it wrong.
That thesis has been rendered invalid.

I dig the parallels between the real life and conquistadors stories, as everything leading up to the bop from the fire sword can be read as a stylized take on Izzi's feelings for Tommy: driven by undying love for his queen against impossible odds and waning faith of his men (docs and researchers). She's noticed the guy can't handle death, and knows her time is up, so she attempts to have Tommy come to terms with the end of life by wrapping up the story.

I agree with Dorkman and Stephan that it then takes him centuries of going nuts in the space bubble to get his shit together and finish the chapter. As written by Major Tom, Tomas, based on Izzi's Tommy, foolishly drinks the sap of the Tree of Life and feels conquered by death. But Major Tom now sees the destruction of his corporeal form for the beautiful transformation Izzi tried to describe in the museum and everything goes Champagne Starchild Supernova.

Beautiful.

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Kyle Monroe wrote:

Do Twilight, but try to do it sober O.o

Challenge: Find both bad ideas in this post!

Oh yeah, and, uh, Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut. Since the three commentary tracks on that 194 minute movie just were not enough.


And there's a lot to say about how excising the son diminishes Sybilla's role as a character foil as well as a romantic interest for Balian, making the theatrical release totally suck.

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downinfront wrote:

By the way, are any of you in LA? (That aren't already DIF guest types.)

Yeah, I live in Hollywood, which is a dick thing to say unless you're from here and know how dumpy it can be.

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downinfront wrote:

By the way, happy to report that The Sandlot is still amazingly good.

Damn, am I happy to hear that. I think about that movie way more than I should for something I haven't seen in like ten years. Does it work as a movie for adults too?

It lives on the same emotional plane for me as 3 Ninjas, which upon a relatively recent viewing was awesome for terrible reasons.

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That Hard Candy poster is rockin. I can't think of five off my head, but the Rashomon restoration poster is much badass.

http://www.kentwilliamsstudio.com/servlet/Detail?no=26

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I listened to all three in like two days, so I'm probably mistaken.

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Que specifico. Not comprehensive, but close. Thanks, iTunes sort.

  1. Drunks and Children - Mighty Mighty Bosstones - Devil's Night Out

  2. I'll Believe In Anything You'll Believe In Anything – Sunset Rubdown – Snake's Got A Leg

  3. Assise – Camille – Le fil

  4. The ConstruKction of Light – King Crimson – The ConstruKction of Light

  5. Lady Brown – Nujabes – Metaphorical Music

EDIT: Boo, beaten.

  1. Cuttlefish

  2. Colossal Squid

  3. That bird that tries to get laid by building the best house

  4. Space germs

  5. Indian cow

Tops films not produced in your native language?

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Howbout a version where Capa chooses not to visit Icarus 1, and Searle goes nuts?

Searle takes very careful tabs on everyone, and having picked up on the captain's sunburn and peeling skin in the captain's logs, spends way too much time on the observation deck as research. Much of the first and a half acts remain unchanged.

As Icarus II comes up behind Mercury, they briefly link up with Icarus I's almost completely destroyed computer, and pull down fragments of their records and the rest of the lost Pinbacker logs, which come through in staggered fragments. Pinbacker, still floating on the other ship, makes some convincing communications with the Icarus II crew, and they conflict over whether or not to go pick him up. They decide against it while compiling his logs, which deteriorate into crazy space gospel describing humans and the planet Earth as a rude accident that should be exterminated if the universe wants them to.

Searle, the only member of the crew that's been exposing himself to the sun for as long as Pinbacker had, manages to set up a secure line of conversation with the old captain for some more psychological insight, speaking with Pinbacker accelerates the sun god complex, catalyzing Searle to use his advanced psychological comprehension of the entire crew and brute murdery force to try and unravel the mission.

You end up with this lovely double Icarus metaphor where a member of II flys too close to the insane guy left from the original Icarus, which again ends up being their (almost) downfall.


Note on smeary baddie: In the commentary they mention that the smeary effect was supposed to be practical, shot through a diopter and manipulated by an AC on set. There are some offlines in the deleted scenes, where it looks like it wasn't satisfactorily successful in the footage, so from there was sent to the smeary liquified place it stands now.

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I'm one of the few people that really, really likes Up's reconciliation of its disparate elements. I listened to the commentary when it came out, so forgive me if I repeat any sentiments. Ride this sad old man to the bank! Kids will love it!

Most have heard the circle/square argument at this point. The comparison can also be drawn for the two different sides of the story, as illustrated through the shot design. In Carl's house before takeoff, the camera stays static. I heard they were drawing their inspiration from Yuuharu Atsuta and his flat, stoic, oppressive cinematography for the first half of the movie, but could be wrong. Symmetrical, confined, long, compressed lensing [indoors?] and the stereoscopic work was very flat and boring.

The big crazy adventure is the circle half of the film. The camera moves start getting all Spielbergian, bopping around one of the most exotic, varied, and colorful environments on the planet. Jungle!

Carl has to push his square peg harder and harder into the round hole [lulz] until he realizes he's okay and get enthused by the life he still has to live.

The jungle stuff is entertaining. Almost seems constructed to serve as smoke and mirrors from what's actually going on. The adventure is used as a vessel for floating a geriatric existential crisis through the minds of everyone that is having too much fun to notice.

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Nah, sorry. by "our panel" I meant something like "these fine fellows." It was mentioned in the 300 show that Constantine was done on the same day.

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Hey guys, I'm new. Kind of. Been listening for well over a year, just decided to jump in on the forums to, uh, work through my feelings towards this movie, but plan to stick around.

Hadn't seen this movie, since I heard it sucked, so I pulled the blurry from Netflix and had at it.


The direction and writing are great. Can't knock them. I have no prior experience with the comic/character/world outside a wikipedial knowledge of the arcane. The internal logic is really smooth, and a treat for a film that is working at this production value. The writing at times does the hyper-noir, retain the lines from the comic thing, but almost the entire cast can pull that off.


The cinematography is solid, but suffers from an issue I first noticed in 300 (which by coincidence was commentarred by our [this] panel in the same day [EDIT: recently, rather]) so let's call it "300 Syndrome." Detour:

In 300, there's the shot of Leonidas, the Xerxian [zer-shin?] messenger, and crew walking towards the death-pit-thing in Sparta. Tracking West Wing style walking towards the camera. Dynamic, but utilitarian. Halfway through, mid conversation, cut to this dramatic, graphic (as in design) security camera style overhead framing the approaching group and the pit, and immediately cut back to simple coverage of a conversation. Soundtrack to their exchange uninterrupted. WHOA. WHY was this shot so dramatically different from all of the shots around it? Especially for something treated as an insert? Someone in the production wanted to hit on every meticulously detailed image from the graphic novel of 300 wether or not it started to fracture the rhythm and language of the cinematography. Quick double detour:

Snyder/Fong managed to skirt this in Watchmen since the blocking and pacing in the graphic novel were exceptionally cinematic, and even more so for the lateighties.

ANYWAY back to Constantine. There are some shots I feel were either pulled from a issue, serial, whatever that inspired the script, that, in the frame, are graphically superior to the shots surrounding them. Liken it to a multicourse meal at a restaurant thats pretty tasty. Three stars. But every few courses, some chef that can run a consistent five star pulls a dish that makes everything else start to taste like crap. It's awesome to see, but it doesn't work in context. Too good for the context. But, everyone feels compelled to keep it in, since it's a nod to the source material. The problem is that you're not trying to nod source material, you're trying to tell a fucking story. It all rings to this ironic antithesis to the first scene of 300, where they kill all the weak babies instead of the ones that are too strong.


The effects are all lovely and add to the production value I mentioned at which its a pleasure to see a movie moving through so smartly. Hell is beautiful, and I can appreciate the parallel planes thing for heaven/hell. There's an inexplicable shot where unconscious Angela still has tracking markers all over her face and stomach, which I would say is totally inexcusable, especially when the rest of the effects work is so grand. While I'm on the subject of effects, I'll say that Zap's pretty internet-famous, I appreciate all of the educational work he does on top of writing great shaders, and I plan to catch his mental ray fxphd course if I ever turn from compositing towards 3D.


So, performances. Djimon does a great smoldering voodoo guy, Shia does the same great riffs he's been doing since Even-fucking-Stevens, and Tilda Swinton is, you know, the best. And Wiesz. Wiesz, Wiesz, Viess. I'm a sucker for actresses who think too hard and always look like they're about to cry, so my opinions on her are compromised, but pairing her, with such a tremendously cerebral acting style to the guy that thinks his character should drink "weird wine from villages or something" is a magnification of the star-chef metaphor from earlier. Except it alternates every other bite. To the point where you can' tell if the restaurant is fucking with you.

All of the characters work except the most important one.

Keanu is the biggest problem with this movie. I like him most of the time. He plays desperate, confused, and exasperated really well, so my gripes with him towards the end of the film are limited. The guy can also fight, so he can express himself physically. Whenever he is trying to turn any gears in his head, he falls apart. Could be that I'm just not on his wavelength or, but he just has this idea of "say this mean and gruff" without really ever going to the emotional depth necessary to give his character and his wackier comic lines a solid delivery. "Balthazar… figures." HOW can you watch that and not squirm? The character of Constantine, as played by Reeves feels as though he should be a couple decades older, and carry the emotional weight of decades of torture by literal demons to all of his actions. There's a failure in the logic of his performance. I don't have an acting background, but I'd love to hear someone ring in on what school Keanu is playing to. Because I don't get it, and he ruins this film for me.

Which is funny, since it most likely wouldn't have been made without his attachment.


So, I'm Paul. Nice to meet everyone. TL;DRs expected. This post is largely cathartic, and I'll keep it pithy in the future. Cheers.