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I think I've basically only seen Charles Dance in LAH but with that movie, and that picture, I think it's safe to say he is a pretty cool guy.
Here in London, he gives regular poetry readings at the British Library. The monthly event is called Josephine Hart's Poetry Hour if anyone's interested. Charles Dance's impeccable RP English gets him all sorts of work.
I'll wait for the fan edit removing the kid
This "intellectual" is effectively committing career-suicide in front of an audience. She's now a laughing stock. She'll only get out of this if she claims she was being ironic, or unduly provocative, or it was performance-art, or someth'n.
If you're in London, Joss Whedon is doing the rounds at Bafta, BFI and the Apple Store flogg'n the movie.
I don't really even know who is in it besides Cavill and Russell Crowe. When I know I will be watching a film I usually go into lockdown mode.
yep - me too. I don't even want to know if the reviews are positive or negative, but that's hard to avoid. Seeing the teaser trailer was enough and when the full trailer showed before IM3 and STID, I wondered what's that piece of fluff on the floor there.
So who's boning up for Man of Steel? Who's got midnight screening tickets? Who's seeing it in IMAX 3D? Who's fed up to here with superheroes? Who's still waiting for a good movie this year? Who prefers Nolan's tone for DC over Marvel's? Will Batman show up after the credits... 'we're putting the band back together'
Given how much folks seem to like IM3, the distaste for this film leaves me a little baffled.
Anyway, it's only a film. None of this is worth a fight over.
They're much the same movie - it's only RDJ's charisma that gives IM3 half-a-point over STID (4.5 v 4/10).
That's a interesting point - does Star Trek Into Darkness simply pass as a 'big dumb fun' movie, in the way that ID4, or Transformers or Pirates or Dredd or Fast & Furious franchise, etc does? Mileage may vary - different people will have different thresholds about what constitutes 'big dumb fun'. Personally, I wouldn't give it a pass on that lower threshold criteria but I understand plenty of people do.
avatar wrote:And he's planning to build Death Star v3.0. He'll do this by going back in time and extracting the first and second Death Stars through a worm hole just before they were destroyed and then combining them into an overclocked turned-up-to-11 Death Star.
Don't call it Star Wars, and you've got yourself a greenlight in my book.
Whatever schlock it ends up being, it'll earn $1B+ with the Star Wars title card slapped on the front. In a world where Iron Man 3 and Transformers 3 can sail past $1B+ without breaking sweat, Star Wars 7 could be a festering PG-13 turd that makes no sense, and still dominate the box office. So the incentive to get the script right is negligible. Kathleen Kennedy, call me.
avatar wrote:You can see Episode 7 taking shape now. The son of Grand Moff Tarkin wants revenge for his dad, and is going to fuck up the lives of the new generation, who have to run, jump, shoot, punch, and fence, for 120 minutes while shouting exposition and quips until he's defeated. On route, they'll consult Han, Luke & Leia for advice and drop a few catchphrases like 'I've got a bad feeling 'bout this' and 'May the force we with you'. It'll be loud, bright, and fast.
Yeah... no.
And he'll be some augmented super-villain that can punch extra hard.
And he'll fly around in a super-duper big black ship full of henchmen.
And he's planning to build Death Star v3.0. He'll do this by going back in time and extracting the first and second Death Stars through a worm hole just before they were destroyed and then combining them into an overclocked turned-up-to-11 Death Star.
I wanted to come out of this thrilled, and amped for Episode 7, but instead I'm already putting the walls back up.
You can see Episode 7 taking shape now. The son of Grand Moff Tarkin wants revenge for his dad, and is going to fuck up the lives of the new generation, who have to run, jump, shoot, punch, and fence, for 120 minutes while shouting exposition and quips until he's defeated. On route, they'll consult Han, Luke & Leia for advice and drop a few catchphrases like 'I've got a bad feeling 'bout this' and 'May the force we with you'. It'll be loud, bright, and fast.
If you think about it, it was weirdly prescient, as the 80s style of action movie would be completely dead in less than 10 years, completely replaced by comic book movies and Michael Bay destructo-flicks.
Yep...
Just got back from seeing this a second time in IMAX. God, it looked awful. I think they just mastered this in 2K, transferred to 70mm, and then shot it across a 6-story screen. I think it's safe to say that this is the worst looking movie I've ever seen in IMAX. Just horrible.
-- Branco
I'd agree with that. It didn't look anywhere near as good as Oblivion or Dark Knight Rises in IMAX.
I just didn't care, I was having fun.
I suppose one can treat it like a demo VFX reel to see how the $190M were spent. Just turn the dialogue off, and admire the CG space ships, lens flares, underwear, and fluid physics modelling off the submerged Enterprise, etc.
The admiral knew that the bodies were in the torpedoes, so he was planning for Kirk to launch them all on Khan and wipe out the entire crew in one fell swoop.
C'mon - that makes no sense. If the admiral has the torpedoes and wants to kill the crew (because he doesn't want Khan to be reunited with the crew), why would he give the frozen crew to some upstart rogue captain and tell him to pursue the dangerous Khan? Why wouldn't he just deactivate the life support on all the torpedoes?
Are you and Dave the only people who have no problem with this? And the 1000 other critics who scratching their heads are just too thick to get it?
After seeing it in IMAX 3D on a rare 15/70mm print, I just rewatched the 3-minute Khan monologue in the cell that is the key to the entire plot and it makes no sense at all. Virtually every sentence Khan says in that monologue contradicts the previous one.
Seriously, that gif should become an institution.
Anyway, coming to this one as a non-geek the film held together much more than Iron Man. I know they've flipped a lot of stuff on its head, but that doesn't bother me at all.
Also, I've no experience of the villain before seeing this picture.
You chaps can all sit around and collectively fellate Tony Stark's 3rd solo film, I'll be sitting I over here with a huge box of popcorn, watching new Start Trek, and grinning from ear to ear.
The real villain is Damon Lindelof who repeatedly demonstrates he's completely scientifically illiterate, and is allergic to bringing in a science PhD as consultant, and therefore should be kept far away from the hard SF genre.
The sky-house in Oblivion, shot by Claudio Miranda (who won the Best Cinematography for Life of Pi) on a 4K Sony F65 is worth taking a look at.
avatar wrote:One thing it didn't cover,
did Khan take out one or two Klingon Birds of Prey with a hand-held gun? Did I see correctly? Tell me that didn't happen.Luke Nieto wrote:I'm pretty sure he's just super-strong and that wasn't technically a hand-held weapon... even though he was handling it with his hands. But still, yeah. That happened.
Nope, that did not happen.
Those were pretty clearly not Birds of Prey, they were the equivalent of scout/patrol ships or shuttles. They bore a resemblance in their design, probably as both a nod to the fans but also because usually a race's smaller ships look like their larger ships. That isn't out of the ordinary in Trek.As for taking them out, clearly the bigger weapon he had was not a normal hand-held weapon. At the time I remember thinking that it was probably a smaller ship's phaser or something that he modified to use the way he did. Plus, they established how powerful it was, and it wasn't out of the realm of believably in the Trek universe. It fried a handful of people, and it tore a hole in a shuttle/patrol ship, causing it to go down (it didn't make the whole thing explode in mid air or anything).
If, in actual reality, you can down a helicopter or low-flying plane with an RPG (a hand-held weapon), then it's not the most ridiculous thing in the world to think that Kahn could down a shuttle/patrol ship with something he could carry.
Unless you're arguing that they ships "would/should" have had shields to defend against it, which is getting a little into the weeds of absurdity. But even then, there's no established moment where ships that small have shields anyways -- the shuttle in the beginning didn't have them (I think), the ship the Crew took to Kronos didn't have them, so again it's perfectly believable that the Klingon scouts didn't have them.
*shrug*
Again, there are enough legitimate criticisms to not waste time nitpicking things like this.
Well, that's a relief. I can sleep easier tonight.
There certainly are enough legitimate criticisms about this movie to not waste time bickering about most of the stuff in that article. I get that it's supposed to be a joke article, but reading it, it seemed pretty quickly to me that it actually was just a joke of an article.
One thing it didn't cover,
everythingshiny wrote:The implication that Americans can just fly around the world, spreading their democracy and fixing the world
Isn’t that what’s happening right now?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_atta … Statistics
If Iron Patriot existed in the real world he'd be blowing shit up in the middle east right now.
Wow, almost 900 civilians inadvertently killed. Dunno if that's fixing things or creating even more enemies in aggrieved family members and survivors. With the capture/kill program casualties added to the drones, (Nobel Peace Prize winning) Obama will be in four-figure territory and may even get near 9/11 figures by the end of his presidency. Nevertheless, that's a relatively low innocent body count for a post-WWII US president. Most of his predecessors had far more blood on their hands.
Spoilers, obviously, but hilarious:
Yep, good one - that sums up most of the issues.
Also...
I know, it doesn't take much to rationalize any explanation for any plot-hole or inconsistency or inexplicable behaviour, but still.
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