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I wouldn't call Kubrick a horror director, considering he only made one horror movie.
You are correct, I meant to say better genre director, or just a better director in general, IMO.
To Me Hitchcock is pretty much to King. I am actually surprised that they haven't
done one of his movies, or maybe they have and I just didn't see it.
Great Episode Guys!!
I just want to say that this is one of my all time fav movies,
along with one of my fav time travel movies, or which I am a fan.
There is a movie, (it really isn't anything like "Groundhog", but I just happened
upon it recently) that I think some of you if not all would love.
Its a Spanish movie from 2007 called "Timecrimes".
It deals with causality like BTTF, Looper, Groundhog, but unlike those movies,
it has my other favorite plot device, which is the movie takes place in about
real time, or close to it, IIRC I would say maybe over 2-3hrs or so.
I think the ending is clever and unexpected, and you really feel for this poor
guy and is situation. It isnt on Netflix, I downloaded, but if you are against
that sort of thing, then I am sure that Amazon has it cheap.
You may have hears about it already, since I see that Cronenberg is
going to remake it. I am all for remakes, but like the "Rec" movies, this
does not need a remake, watch the original people.
(I watched Quarantine just because of Dexters sis was in it, what a horrible shot for shot
remake, they could have just done a decent dub job on Rec and put in a wide release,
take a chance studios, damn)
A little late, but great episode!!
I am on the same boat with you guys about this really not
making the grade to be on my personal top 10 or even top
50 best horror movies.
Kubrick is an auteur, he is/was brilliant, but IMHO he isn't the
best director ever, or maybe not even in the top 5.
Hitchcock, to me, is the best horror director.
OK, you can say that some of these other guys(not Hitchcock, of course)
are good because of Kubrick, and they emulate his style,
But whose to say that if Kubrick was never around that these guys
would have not figured out there own style....
I never did think that this was a very scary movie, IMO, maybe
the couple of "jump scares" when the kid sees the twins,
but the "here's johnny" stuff was more like a slasher, and I was taken
to see stuff like House by the Cemetery when it was at the
drive-in in 81', I was 6, lol, so good Ol Dad started me young
with the genre goodness. I here people say how they saw this
or that on TV by accident and they ran away terrified, that never
happened to me. I was reading those UFO abduction books in 1st
A little late, but great episode!!
P.S.: This site has some fantastic photos and notes from the movie, I
put a couple pics up, the overview of the set, which as you can see,
is broken up into pieces, so it would be disorienting, but It was done
for space reasons, I'm sure. The second pic is a frame of the German
typewriter scene: “Was du heute kannst besorgen, das verschiebe nicht
auf morgen,” which translates to “Never put off till tomorrow what may
be done today.”
Fun fact: there should be four guys in the photo. It's a rescue mission.
lol, the fourth guy is right in the middle of the shot, under many layers
of elephant anatomy, LMAO!
"This is a terrible elephant!" And Mike is saying "I think it's because we're looking at the butt hole." And you're like "Stop looking at the butt hole!" And We're like "This is the direction we approached the elephant from! If Rian Johnson wants us to see it some other way, he needs to turn the elephant around!"
LMAO!
So you're saying no opinion should ever render judgment on whether a movie was right or wrong to make a choice? I'm sorry, that's just ridiculous.
Um... What are you talking about??? Who is saying this?
Who's posts are you reading?
You are welcome to disagree but I don't much care for being told how to express our tastes on our show.
Wait.... Someone, who hosts a podcast that sometimes tries to completely rewrite
award winning filmmakers' movies, can't listen/read opinions on how they should change???
Why is it that your posts always get so hostile, even your avatar looks mean, lol.
No one is saying how you should run your show. But it comes across, in this episode,
that what they did with this movies plot was not right, and it didn't sound like an opinion on this
episode.
But thats just me, and that is all I am saying.
And speaking of opinions of how things are put together, your syntax and 100 character line breaks are pretty inscrutable. What gives? It's like you paste all your posts out of a hostile vim buffer.
vim buffer?
To me that stands for a buffer in a Vehicle Interface Module, but I am an Auto Tech, so...
Ya, its not that I don't care about grammer, um, I am just not good with it. I got A's on all
my story writing, but D-'s on the grammer part. Probably was watching a movie when
I should have been doing homework.
TWO MAGIC BEANS!!!!
LMAO!!!
No, ya, I understand totally about fantasy plots and all, I just realized that I left that part
of my post in, I was going to say something else, and didnt, so I cut a part of the middl...
OK, lol, I'll just go and edit it out... 
That's lazy worldbuilding, and lazy storytelling. It would have been possible to make the two magic beans both aspects of the same overarching magic bean, but that would have entailed making TK part of the story instead of just a magical gun the kid can wave around for a few minutes at the end.
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But see I disagree, and in turn you disagree with me, just as long as you are not saying that
what you are saying there is fact, and that someone MUST NOT write in this manner period,
or may they walk the plank, or get the Rack, perhaps thrown in the Pit of Despair... I think you know
where I am going here...
Have you heard us talk much about magic beans and "Wonderlands" in other commentaries?
Yup.
If I thought you guys were a bunch of hacks, I wouldn't have listened to about
40 or so of your commentaries. I agree with you guys most time, sometimes things
are said by one or more of you in a certain movies, of course.
But in this case I just dont agree. You can't say, "well, its OK if you have 2 magic beans if they
had just put the second magic bean as a surprise at the last minute when we learn the
the kid is the rainmaker, but to have the TK the whole movie, well that just ruins it"
now that is an opinion, which is different to when you guys say that they cant do something
then to when they shouldn't have.
So if you say they would have been more effective if we didnt know anything about the TK at all,
and blamo, this kid has it, in the last 20 min, and thats why he is the rainmaker, which is what
Trey says, I would totally 100 percent agree. Rian says that people would have flipped out
if they didn't put the TK in the beginning, and I disagree with that.
But that was his decision, or so he says, and that is that, you guys can disagree, I can disagree,
but to say that he totally messed upa big part of the plot, and it is a screenwriting no-no, ya, I
don't buy that at all.
OK, so I just started listening to this commentary, and skimmed through the posts here.
I guess I just think differently than other people.
I simply don't understand why you can't have 2 "magic beans" in a movie like this.
Automatically if I am watching a Sci-Fi movie, either what you guys are calling "hard Sci-Fi"
or not, I turn off any form of logicmaking where it comes to what is possible.
Scientists say that time travel is impossible in real life, so to that I say if you are complaining
about "TK" in this movie, you should never even have bothered to turn on this movie
in the first place, along with BTTF or any movie dealing in time travel.
I watch a movie, if it is badass, like this one was, than thats that.
Don't get me wrong, there are many movies that I know were big
hits and that people loved, but I couldn't watch 5 minutes of.
But for 4 people to say "well the movie was good, but it just
had too much sci-fi in the plot", that just sounds insane to me.
Hmmm, I you guys keep saying in this podcast "who the does she look like???
about the main woman with black hair.
Of course she looks exactly like Catherine Zeta-Jones, which is who
I thought it was when I first saw her, and had to do a double take.
I dont know if it was brought up afterwards, but Trey had said that this felt like a novel/book.
That because it was a book that the director had written into a graphic novel with someone else,
and the project had to be abandoned for some reason. So basically it came from and unpublished
novel, so that is probably where Trey was getting that vibe from, so he was right on the money!
I will say this, guys. If I ever willingly watch a movie with the line, "If I want your opinion, I'll rape it outta you" in it, just kill me right then and there because something has gone horribly wrong.
hahahahahahah I was anle to find copy of the movie, so I got some clips
you have to watch this guy, I dont know where they found this guy,
but he is one awesome bad dude, LMAO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lffOBf82 … e=youtu.be
and some clips I edited together
mkeithddc wrote:yes I did, Its right from the directors commentary, which the bluray hasdanny boyle
and one with scientist that did all the consulting.what is your point?
I don't recall that being the explanation at all. My point was that on the one hand you're really reaching with that explanation (using knowledge from outside the movie as well) and then here you're questioning what is a perfectly valid interpretation of a scene.
Sorry you forgot about the a plot point of a movie, but I wasn't making
anything up, just relaying info.
There is nothing wrong with tring to inturpet a scene, but I just disagree
with what was said about it. And it wasn't the same as mine, he did
make his up out of his own imagination. I didn't.
Indeed. I get so much out of reading the early drafts (the making of books are fantastic references for this) and seeing what plot lines go where and how things all pull together is so interesting to me. It sheds more light on to the process of creating the finished work. Star Wars has become more interesting to me the more I learn about it and the process that it took to create it.
This is why stick to the movies, I am a film buff, not a Star Wars buff, know what I mean?
You guys are talkng about stuff that I have no knowledge of, early treatments and whatever,
I have never been into that stuff with any movie. Just like to listen how it was made and all,
not what could have been done different with the story,
To me, once a movie has been made, and sometimes there are directors cuts, but not counting
that, once its done, that story is set in stone to me. I dont cry about how this character didnt have this
arc or this makeup wasnt quite right. whatever, I fill in the rest with my imagination. like reading a
book. But like I said, I like to listen to commentaries when people are talking about who this or that
effect was done, thats my thing.
mkeithddc wrote:Ya, I think your reading too much into that one.
Wait, didn't you make a post in the Sunshine thread about how the shitty tilt camera effect was a reflection of how time and space had been warped around Pinbacker?
yes I did, Its right from the directors commentary, which the bluray hasdanny boyle
and one with scientist that did all the consulting.
what is your point?
Ya. you got it, you have your way, I have my way. Its all good...
I will say this, guys. If I ever willingly watch a movie with the line, "If I want your opinion, I'll rape it outta you" in it, just kill me right then and there because something has gone horribly wrong.
LMAO!! Hey, on paper it seems silly, but on the screen, its hilarious, lol.
But seriously, if your the guy whos all time favorite movies are the lethal Weapon/Die Hard
type, you would love this movie, if only for the characters.
OMG, the leader is the big black guy from Dusk till Dawn right, so anyway, their
camp is getting attacked by the bad guys, and so he is running and then slides over the
hood of a truck for no reason, and barely makes it, and another part where the guy is running
and does a roll and jumps up, ala Galaxy Quest. So funny!!
Oh Man, I just wanted to watch the scene again, and Netflix took it off of streaming!!!
and it cant be downloaded anywhere, damnit, bastards!!
Oh Well
Later
1. Luke specifically says "Your real mother." Leia knew she was adopted.
2. What do you mean "telepathically finds out"? Luke tells her. No telepathy.
3. The plain fact is that Lucas didn't. Go read the early story treatments for ROTJ.
What movie are you watching, in the end of 6, lukes like "Im your Brother", and she
was like, "I know, I think Ive always known", leia, is part jedi, so she could
sense lukes and Vaders feelings.
"Go read the early Treatmeants", um no, dont care what wasnt filmed, what is on
celluloid is what is period. no books or"expanded universe", I am not a fanboy,
I watch movies, sorry.
1. I hardly think he's reading too much into it. Luke's clearly answering a request to put the ship on autopilot, and Artoo is clearly nervous about the whole endeavor. Perfectly reasonable of Dorkman to make that inference, and rather clever too, I thought.
2. Doesn't matter if it's his brainchild—the original trilogy is what it is because he was forced to compromise and let other people show him what the best choices to make were. No one is saying it's not his prerogative to make the films he wants to make, we're just saying it's unfortunate that those films kinda suck.
3. "No matter how bad the script was, it's still a good story"? Seems kinda contradictory. And a bad script is hardly "minor stuff". And your saying that "you can imagine the way it should be, so you aren't disappointed" is precisely the reason that you should be disappointed. What it should have been wasn't what we got, which can only mean that we got what it shouldn't have been. And I don't see how you can say that and still insist it's not bad filmmaking.
dont know why you would be answering for someone else but, ok.
anyway, let me clarify, I, me, personally have NO PROBLEM with anyof the star wars movies.
Any amount of aurguing with me about it will get no where, and I will just say you are wrong
about the prequels and its only your opinion, so lets just drop it, like I said, no wars over this.
"No matter how bad the script was, it's still a good story"? Seems kinda contradictory.
Um, no, its not contradictory at all, a story os the general concept, the braod strokes, the script
is the details, the dialoge and characters, one can like the big picture, and not the execution.
When I was talking about having not the best movie and still a good story, that was in general,
not specific. But of course you can have a good story without perfect movie.
I was watching the commentary, and someone says, maybe Trey, that "lea can remember her
mother in these movies, proof that Lucas was making it up as he goes along"
I dont get it, because of course she would say she has a mother and father
she remembers, she was given to a married couple, Jimmy Smits and wife,
and raised as their own, so as far as Lea is concerned those were her parents.
It isnt till the end of episode 6 that she telepathically finds out that Vader is her father
and Luke is the brother.
abd as far as having lea and luke kiss in 4 and 5, Lucas couldhave still known that he was
going to make them twins in the 6th movie, because they wouldnt know they were twins,
and even if it might be creepy for the viewer(I dotn have a problem with it), it would
be normal for them to show their affection like non twins, lol
I just understood that Artoo was basically going "Oh, yeah, totally. Dagobah. That sounds like a great and not at all crazy plan. Golly, that's a long way off, and you've had a long day. Why don't you let me fly and just take a nap or something?" With the full intention of basically commandeering the X-Wing, going to the rendezvous, and maybe getting 2-1B to check Luke's brain again.
Even the droid that can't talk has subtext in this movie. Goddammit Hollywood, this is how you do it.
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Ya, I think your reading too much into that one.
And another thin, not to start a war or anything, but your comment above about how Lucas
says he didnt like ESB and how the prequels sucked and how George just doesnt know how
Star Wars should be made,
well I just have to say this. It is his idea, his brainchild. If he wants to make movies that all the original
fans seem to hate, that is his perogative. I personally like the prequels just as much as the original
movies, I like all 6 of them equally, they tell a story, regardless of how bad or good the casting might
be or script was, it was still a good story and it is fine IMO.
I can watch a movie and if there is something that doesnt work or fit, minor stuff, I can just
imagine it the way I felt it should be, so I dont get disapointed with it.
Not that there isnt times with movies were I want to yell at the screen, lol
You don't have to think anything. But by your logic, there's no such thing as a bad movie. And I think we can all agree that there clearly is.
What's a movie that you think is bad? Think about why you consider that movie bad, and whether or not it's as valid a reason as our reason for disliking Sunshine.
What? A movie is bad for the viewer if it not fun(or any number of adjatives) for that viewer to watch.
I like the movie Sunshine, all of it, its how I feel.
I like most films I watch. but I carefully select what I watch, first.
If an action movie make me feel exilerated, if a horror movie creeps me out, if a rom-com makes me
feel happy, these are all the things I take into consideration.
You wanted to know a movie I dislike, or types of movies, those spoof movies they
come out with, like "disaster movie","epic movie", etc. those are just horrible.
All those Found Footage movies that everyone hates, not cloverfield, people like that one, but
all the cheezy ones that are on netflix, I love those movies.
Those low budget horror movies that get 3 stars or less on IMDB, I llive for that stuff
granted someare really bad, but like I said, I just know it when I watch it.
In fact, there is a movie that is streaming on there now, its about as low budget as you can get,
but whoever wrote it really knew haw to work that fantastic 80s action dialoge and one liners
into a script, I watch it like every day for a week when I first watched it. Its called
Zombie Apocalypse: Redemption(2011). It includes classic lines such as:
"If I want your opinion, I'll rape it outta you." and "The Mouth" and
"Holy Jesus Christmas Shit!! Get Down!"
oh man those are classic, buddy, LMAO.
Its all filmed in Detroit, which most of it already looks like a wastelend so "Production Value"(Super 8, lol)
http://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/Zombie_A … kid=496715
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1715362/reference
Ya, so I am the wrong person to ask about what I think is good. The are several commentaries I had
to turn off becuase everyone was just trashing the movie that I thought was awesome, It happens
You want a movie that is the best, that has what I would say a perfect 3 act setup, perfect tone
throughout. Its called "Resolution"(2012), fantastic creepy horror movie, a thinking mans movie,
without the gore or blood.
http://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/Resoluti … tocomplete
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1977895/reference
Thinking on it some more, it should really be treated more like the finale of Blade Runner, where the villain is articulate, and you kind of get where he's coming from. They should've ditched all the stupid make-up effects and just had him be a guy. Give him a chance to actually speak and interact with the crew, and then when it does turn into a "hide from the killer" situation, film it in a coherent way that conveys the geography of the situation and heightens tension.
It could absolutely be done in a way that worked, Danny Boyle just dropped the ball.
I see where your coming from. The thing is that I disagree with the fact that, like o submarine says,
becuase it changes tone in act 3, the film is now "dumber".
Also, I don't think he "dropped the ball".
But this should be opinion, is all I am saying. Not fact. As if the film gods say:
(spoken in a Kings court anouncement bellow)
"O' so it be written hensforth, that any film who changes tone in Act III is garbage, That is all"
I just dont by into that. If I film 2 hours of a dog crapping, and a bunch of people
thinks its art, than its art.
I flip out when people try and break protocol
and cut out a step when doing something. So I agree that a film should have this
kind of sructure that makes sense.
Its just that sometimes people will say F-you and make a movie that doesn't follow
the rules, and despite this, it will be a good movie, to me.
You guys don't agree, OK, I'm cool with that. Just don't tell me that I should
think that it is crap, or that I am not allowed to think that the filmmakers
were OK with what they did, this should be opinion, not fact..
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