Lamer, we all agree.  But TheGregbot 4000 believes he should just have it now for free and it's up to other people to figure out how people should get paid.  Maybe an hourly wage, he says.

With all this said, I would love to read a movie review by TheGreg.

"This batch of information that took roughly 2 hours and 13 minutes in earth time to download from the screen images onto my brain drive.  While no crashes occurred, I did not find my emotional receptors adequately pleased.  In fact, at roughly 01;03;22 of the informations download process I reali01100010100101010111010010101010"

TheGreg during a date.

"Greetings Mobile Flesh Data Receptor.  I understand we must consume large amounts of data during the "dinner" we had planned.  I hope you will inform me of all the data you acquired during your "day," and that I will acquire the necessary data to earn a goodnight sample study of the data on your cheek flesh."

TheGreg at a family reunion

"Which members of same flesh are expired and non operational?  This is the only Data I require."

The Greg's Lawyer, while TheGreg is on trial.

"Well, that's the question you have to answer. Your Honour, the courtroom is a crucible. In it we burn away irrelevancies until we are left with a pure product, the truth for all time. Now, sooner or later, this man or others like him will succeed in replicating TheGreg. And the decision you reach here today will determine how we will regard this creation of our genius. It will reveal the kind of a people we are, what he is destined to be. It will reach far beyond this courtroom and this one Greg. It could significantly redefine the boundaries of personal liberty and freedom, expanding them for some, savagely curtailing them for others. Are you prepared to condemn him and all who come after him to servitude and slavery? Your Honour, Starfleet was founded to seek out new life. Well, there it sits. Waiting. You wanted a chance to make law. Well, here it is. Make a good one."

But again, I think the kernel here that we can all zero in on, is the Greg champions the free exchange of information whereas I think the rest of us do not categorize movies, music, etc as information.  This is what I was trying to get at.  Lincoln is a great movie based in truth, but it is not information.  It's media, it's art, it's cinema, it's entertainment, yes.  But Information?  That's a bit reductive, no?

Guys...the sale ends TOMORROW!  What the fuck are you all debating here for.  BUY SOME GODDAMNED BUGGY WHIPS.

And you'll complain the entire time they should be for free.

Just want to give everyone a heads up.  SAME DAY DELIVERY ON BUGGY WHIPS.  Just in time for Christmas, you guys!

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I would like to say Greg, that in all of your critiques of the current model, you have very few specifics of exactly how a new model would sustain it. 

"I'm sure creative people will find a way to make good content pay for itself - they always have, even before copyright."

There's a lot of this hopeful language in your parts and very few sustainable solutions.  How would financing major feature films work, exactly?  You can poo poo the current version all you want, and there's much to poo poo.  But just like the Nielson's, it's the best option for now that allows most creators and most consumers to walk away happy.

"Well, I simply don't agree. Ultimately I don't know that there is a way to settle that. It seems obvious to me that Ian McKellen reading a book is a very different idea from a film adaptation."

But if I film Ian McKellan reading a book...it's still a a film.  So is the actual film of "The Hobbit."  The story being presented is the same, the presentation, the Artistry if you will, is what you're paying for.  A specific set of values being added to it.

Have you ever, like, MADE anything?

Okay.  So If you bought a ticket to go see....I dunno, The Hobbit.  And it was an image of a white cyc and Ian Mckellan comes out to a chair, and reads The Hobbit to you, and then your buddy comes out of a different theater and says he just saw The Hobbit, but it was the actual movie that we know is coming out, would you feel cheated?  It's lieterally THE SAME IDEA.

But why should you care that someone is doing that?  Mel still makes a living.  No one is harmed, right?

No...that's not the argument.  There ARE in fact people who make Horse Buggies and sell them.

http://www.horseloverz.com/Whips/478603 … -Whip.html

It may be a niche market, but it's still a MARKET.  If people want to buy horse buggies, they can, and they are compensated for them.  At no point do people say, "Eh, this thing isn't really used that much anymore, so it should just be free.  Right Vinnie?"