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Invid wrote:

And there's nothing wrong with that. It brother IS an idiot, in fact killing his sister. They could have lived a good life with the aunt if he had stayed there and obeyed her rules. The author kills his younger self because he's ashamed he lived.

My problem isn't that Nosaka "killed" his younger self out of guilt. My problem is that Takahata decided that it was the audience who should feel guilty. Even before I understood Takahata's exact intentions, this film felt like an obnoxious piece of propaganda. Knowing that I was right about his motives if not his target doesn't make things any better.

Invid wrote:

As far as being anti-war, any film that deals with those affected by war is almost anti-war by definition. It may not be the main point, but it is there. The director need not have intended that message for it to, in fact, be there, especially when we are dealing with a film where others working on it may have injected that feel.

That broadens the definition of "anti-war" to the point of meaninglessness, but I guess that it's partly a matter of perception. I'm not saying that "Word of God" is the end all and be all of what a story has to say, but authorial intent can play an important part in our understanding and appreciation of a work. Tossing it out entirely seems short-sighted.

Squiggly_P wrote:

He looks straight at the audience with a not-too-happy look on his face, and then he looks out at all of Tokyo with the same disappointment.

A made-for-tv remake was done in 2005, I think, that essentially "forgives" present day Japan for being such inconsiderate brats. It tells the story from the point of view of Seita's cousin, as she explains to her granddaughter why her mother was such a bitch to Seita and Setsuko when they were living with them. It has the typical J-drama saccharine-sweet sentimentality and very low production value, so it might not be worth looking up, but it's out there. This movie does a much better job of being an "anti-war" film in my opinion, because it goes more into the hows and whys of the story as they directly related to the war. Providing context matters, and that's not something the anime version bothers with at all.

Squiggly_P wrote:

I still think Takahata is a fantastic director, tho.

+1,000,000

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After the Programming Childhood Intermission, I decided to rewatch this. Everyone sings the praises of this movie, and Takahata is one of my favorite anime directors. I figured it was worth another try just in case my memory of this movie was flawed and it was actually a much better than I remembered it. And in fact, the first half of the film is pretty good. I was mostly on-board with everything until it hit about the 50 minute mark. Basically, the point at which Seita turns into an annoying asshat and the romanticization of his relationship with Setsuko gets out of hand. After that, the movie was grating my nerves so badly I had to turn it off. I eventually managed to finish it, but only just barely. Seriously, a very sad two minute montage of a little girl playing set to an incredibly somber version of "There's No Place Like Home?" Not exactly going for subtlety, I guess.  roll

I'm always surprised when people describe this as an anti-war film, because there isn't anything anti-war about it, as far as I can see. Sure, it takes place during the war and misfortune befalls the characters as a direct result, but essentially the war is just the backdrop. It could've been set at any time and in any place. Takahata never intended it to be an anti-war film, and author of the novel wrote it as an apology/love letter to his younger sister. In fact, I'd say the movie goes out of its way not to make any sort of statement about WWII or wars generally at all. Primarily, Grave of the Fireflies is trying to shame its audience, and it uses heavy-handed, manipulative tactics to do it.

So I remain in the minority of people who don't like this movie. hmm
4/10

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johnpavlich wrote:

But otherwise, the middle schoolers are living in sin! smile

Well, it is a Japanese movie, so no one cares whether you're living in sin or not. wink
But really, making a decision to marry someone when you're 14 is pretty stupid, even if you aren't Romeo and Juliet.

I've seen all of Studio Ghibli's feature-length films (including the God-awful Tales from Earthsea), and probably most of their shorts and OVAs. I haven't voluntarily watched a dub of anything in at least the past 14 or 15 years, but luckily for me, all of the Japanese DVD-releases of Ghibli movies come with an English subtitle track. Whisper of the Heart is my absolute favorite. The death of the director, Yoshifumi Kondo, was a huge blow for the Studio as he was incredibly talented and basically Miyazaki and Takahata's chosen successor (Miyazaki did the screenplay for Whisper).

If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend The Cat Returns, which is a spin-off of Whisper of the Heart. It's the only film they've ever released that feels like Ghibli but that also feels like a modern film rather than a quaint/nostalgic/reverent look back at an earlier time. There's a youthful energy to it that none of the Studio's other movies have. It works with the thread topic, too, because the main character is in high school and the story is pretty accessible for younger kids.

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I'm so glad for all the Fraggle Rock love.  big_smile
It was definitely my go-to Henson work as a kid, mostly 'cause I've never cared much for Miss Piggy. The episode where Mokey gets Convincing John to convince everyone to stop eating the Doozers' constructions has always been one of my favorites. I just love that the world of Fraggle Rock is so complex. I have a hard time imagining what could be higher on Teague's list of stuff to watch!

I was also a little surprised at how little love Don Bluth got during the podcast, but then, I probably could've done at least 30-40 minutes just on The Secret of NIMH. NIMH primarily seems to be remembered for scaring the pants off of us as kids, but it's also an all-around beautiful, wonderful film. And even though some of his later stuff isn't that great story-wise, all of them are lovely to look at.

Invid wrote:

Miyazaki didn't direct Grave of the Fireflies. It IS from Studio Ghibli, which tends to only release Miyazaki movies, so the confusion is understandable.

Okay, slightly rapid anime fan moment here, but...

As a Takahata fangirl, and someone who really doesn't care for Miyazaki that much, I tend to find this sort of confusion irritating. I personally hate Grave of the Fireflies, but Isao Takahata deserves so much more attention abroad than he gets. His films are excellent, and aside from Grave, I recommend them all highly. I've even got tickets for his latest, The Tale of Princess Kaguya, burning a hole in my pocket right now.

And while Miyazaki has had several more films than Takahata in the past few years, it's a bit of a stretch to say that Ghibli only releases Miyazaki movies. In fact, for the past ten years they've spent most of their time giving the next generation a chance to spread their wings and watching them fail spectacularly. Takahata and Miyazaki have both said the films they each released this year will be their last, so unless by some miracle Goro Miyazaki manages to get his act together, the future is looking a bit bleak.

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I really like The Lady in the Water and I don't think it deserves its 24% rating on Rotten Tomatoes or its reputation as a shitty film.

Sure it's got it's problems, but the movie mostly suffers from having too many ideas rather than too few, and this would not be a bad problem to have if Shyamalan had been willing to approach the script with an editing eye (ie, listen to Disney).  In any case, this movie is overwhelmingly about Paul Giamatti and his relationship with the people around him, and that part of it is just excellently done. Weighting the good against the bad, I'd say there's quite a bit more of the former than the latter.

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I'm gonna join BDA on his side of the internet, 'cause that Preview button is there for a reason.

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Cloud Atlas wasn't in fact a cloud atlas and featured very few shots of clouds at all.

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BigDamnArtist wrote:

Rango wants to be someone else, that's his ENTIRE thing for the first half of the movie

I guess you're going off of his opening monologue, but I don't agree that Rango was like a theater geek trying to reinvent himself, and for me there just wasn't enough of a connection between that monologue and his sudden decision to be "Rango the Gunslinger," rather than act out the role of "Rango the Gunslinger."

When he's in the tank we're shown that he enjoys acting and is clearly lonely, but that isn't the same thing as, "I want to be someone else." Once he's out of the tank he meets the armadillo, the frog who warns him about the hawk, and Beans before he arrives in the town. In none of those three scenes did I get the impression that he had self-esteem issues or wanted to be anything other than what he was, a dedicated thespian desperate for a drink of water. When he talking to Beans on her wagon, Rango seems animated and happy to be talking about his acting. Rango isn't really "undefined;" he's an actor. A lonely and uninspired actor, but an actor nonetheless. But once he becomes the gunslinger, we pretty much never see the actor again.

And that simply makes no sense to me. He doesn't have an arc so much as they swapped one character out for someone completely different.

In the bar, when he says to himself, "Who am I? I could be anyone," and begins his elaborate ruse, it felt like an actor's Pavlovian response to the stage he was standing on, which would be fine. Except that he never goes back to being the actor, which is ridiculous. He never breaks character even when it would make sense for him to do so; he becomes a completely new and somewhat annoying person for absolutely no reason. I think I would be fine with it if we could still see glimpses of the actor underneath it all, but we never do, and even when his lie is revealed, the fact that he's an actor playing a part is never addressed.

So I have a hard time agreeing that his lie is character-based. To me, it seems much more like an out-of-character plot convenience on which the film relies heavily. And in that way it's much the same as every other "Liar Revealed" story.

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I hate to say this, but The Neverending Story quite clearly does end, in both the book and movie. An Elaborate Series of Interconnecting Tales might have been a better title, for the book at least.


ETA:

Ewing wrote:

Rain Man wasn't about a man who could control the weather.

I want to see this movie. I also want Rain Man do come to Tokyo and stop this deary cold rain we've been having.

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BigDamnArtist wrote:

Lilo And Stitch (2002)

I always forget how much I absolutely love this movie, and then I watch it again on a whim and fall deeply, maddly and impossibly in love with it all over again. It really is one of those forgotten gems that always seems to get overlooked. I just love it so much, it's perfect in every way. I just wanna hug it.

Love of Lilo and Stitch may be lacking in your neck of the woods, but I assure you, Japan has more than made up for it. Not just the movie, but the animated series as well. It's probably just behind the Disney Princesses and Winnie the Pooh in terms of merchandising, which isn't all that unusual. But additionally, tons of Japanese have actually seen the movie, which can't be said of either of the other two franchises.

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Happy-Go-Lucky          9/10     

Ah, Mike Leigh. I could kiss the man, I really could.  big_smile

The movie stars Sally Hawkins as the persistently cheerful and optimistic primary-school teacher, Poppy. Happy-Go-Lucky is one of those films that makes you wonder if she's crazy or is she the most sane character on screen. It's typical of Leigh's style; no real script, just repeated improvisation and character work until each scene is fully fleshed out. The actors remain unaware of major plot points until they start work on that scene, so every laugh and grimace and look of surprise feels genuine.

The story follows Poppy through her various encounters with people and it can seem a bit mundane. But she is such an engaging and likable character that I was just enjoying watching her and her friends, until I suddenly realized that the plot had started long ago and the story was just carrying me along for the ride.

The performances are wonderful, particularly Eddie Marsan as Scott. He's said that he thought he was preparing for a drama, because Scott is such an intense character, and it wasn't until he started working with Sally Hawkins that he realized how funny it was. Scott really does feel like a character from a serious drama who gotten sucked into Poppy's lighthearted comedy and has his world turned upside down. The scene with Poppy's pregnant sister, Helen, was also really great, as we watch how some of those around Poppy react to her upbeat and carefree manner. The one slightly disappointing aspect for me was Poppy herself. She didn't get quite fleshed out the way I'd hoped. But overall it was an enjoyable little film.



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Tell No One          7/10

I don't know about this one, maybe the book is better. Although the author has said that he likes the movie's ending better.

I started this one feeling rather excited. It feels like an adaptation of a novel, but not in a bad way. Everything was building so well, it was seamless. It was fast paced, exciting, and smart. Not revolutionary or genius, but very smart. Like, our hero doesn't make the myriad of stupid mistakes so common in this kind of story, and the police are competent and intent on doing their jobs rather than being a bunch of bumbling idiots. Mika'ela Fisher plays a total badass. And all throughout the clues seem to be leading to something spectacular. At least, I made it to the climax thinking whatever came next was going to be so awesome.

And my goodness, what I got was... lame.

The reveal is just totally unworthy of everything that led up to it. The villain's motives are weak and his actions are insanely excessive, which is fine if the movie acknowledges that he's kind of crazy. But instead gives him one very short scene that tries to justify what he's done. The mystery behind the death of the lead character's wife is far-fetched, and none of the answers we're given satisfactorily explain anything. The cloak & dagger shit feels like it belongs in a James Bond film or the next movie in the Bourne series; it's completely out of place here. And when I think about the "inciting incident," the body count in this movie is kind of ridiculous.

But despite its problems, I know what a harsh judge I can be, and I can't say I didn't enjoy myself for first 120 minutes. For the last ten, your mileage may vary.



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Rango          5/10

I really, really, really don't like the "liar revealed" plot line. Most of the time it's lazily done and the character essentially has absolutely no reason to lie in the first place. In Rango, there's no character-based reason for him to lie, the circumstances don't really call for it, the lie itself isn't really pertinent or useful, his execution of the lie is incompetent, and when the lie is finally revealed, the payoff is underwhelming. They should've just stuck with the fish-out-of-water theme it had going at the beginning rather than tacking on the dumb "liar revealed" plot.

Other than that, the movie is internally inconsistent and confusing. Much like Teague's complaint of Tropic Thunder, it vacillates between spoof and satire, which makes for some good visual gags but also makes it a lot harder to invest in what's going on. Why on Earth do some animals act mostly like animals while the townsfolk are drinking out of tiny chameleon-sized glasses and wearing dresses? Why does Beans have hair? Whatever happened to Mr. Merrimack? That never got properly explained. Why are the fox and raccoon characters the same size as everyone else while Rattlesnake Jake and the hawk are gigantic? And why do Rango's eyes never move in different directions? One of the coolest things about chameleons and he never does it once!

Although I did like some of the side characters and some of the humor in the film, overall I just couldn't get into it. I must add, though, that it is very, very pretty.

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Squiggly_P wrote:

Also, Gillian Anderson is unrecognizable to me now. I knew going into this that she was in the movie, but I watched the whole thing and didn't see her. So I checked, and when I saw a photo of what she looks like now, I was shocked. She's in the movie, but I can hardly believe that's her. The sad thing is that I think she only changed her hair color.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Gillian_Anderson_2013_%28cropped%29.jpg/395px-Gillian_Anderson_2013_%28cropped%29.jpg

She looks like she's lost some weight as well and gained a few wrinkles, but it's probably the color and length of her hair that's making her look so different to you. The longer cut is framing her face in a more flattering way than the long bob she had as Dana Scully. I can't imagine not recognizing her by her voice, tho. I've always really liked her voice and speech patterns.

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BigDamnArtist wrote:

PPS: There's also possibly a point to be made that movies like Avatar and Gravity push the envelope of what is generally considered the box VFX sits in, so when they push out and make it work they are lauded as these incredible feats of visual effects prowess, despite using primarily the same techniques as every other VFX film out there just with a bigger idea behind it.

It's only 7pm here, so I feel entirely justified in yet again replying to someone else's very good post, and here I am agreeing again.


VFX matter very, very little to me. In all likelihood, I'm only going to notice them if I'm already enjoying everything else the movie has to offer; if I'm not enjoying it, the VFX bring me no subsequent joy. It's all just a lot of sound and fury signifying a ridiculous budget wasted on film I will never watch again.

I don't have to deal with all of the hype for Gravity, but I also haven't heard very much praise for anything other than the VFX, which makes it unlikely I will ever see this movie.

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Zarban wrote:

I hate Titanic. I mean really hate it.

The romance is just awful, cloying, unrealistic, cliched claptrap. And it's stuck on top of a real-life tragedy.

There's even a bunch of bullshit about a fancy necklace and an evil fiance. And in the end the old Rose, who rejected her fiance because she found courage in her shipboard romance and lived a life modest want instead of wealth, reveals that she never even sold the stupid necklace--stolen from the evil fiance, not a gift from her true love/unwashed, homeless gambler of a back-seat lover. And she throws the damn thing in the ocean like that has any goddamn significance.

Besides, who takes a 100-year-old woman on a ship to the north Atlantic ocean in the first place? It's idiotic.

Totally agree with this. I hate this movie. Even in an attempt to re-watch it for the WAYDM commentary, I gave up after about an hour in to it.

The story of Jack and Rose (mostly, Rose) just doesn't work for me, at all. I can see that there is a solid structure underneath, but the heart of the movie is dead on arrival. Under ordinary circumstances, I would just be meh, but the one thing that has always pissed me off about this movie was when old Rose throws that damnned necklace overboard at the end.

Just thinking about it now has got me a bit annoyed.

I mean, in the beginning, the guys were only interested in finding the necklace. The old woman wanted to teach them that there was much more valuable things that were lost that day by telling them her story. Unfortunately, I think her story sucks, but the Bill Paxton character seemed convinced. Now having learned his lesson (and facing financial ruin) why on Earth does she not give him the fucking necklace at the end? She totally got what she wanted, a chance to tell her story, relive her memories in a place very important to her, and impress upon a younger generation the significance of the tragedy. Those men were the only ones who were able to give that to her and all they wanted was the necklace. Seeing as how the necklace itself had no value to her, I'm bewildered as to why she decided to fuck them over by throwing it in sea rather than rewarding them for listening to her.

Honestly, I sat in the theater feeling like it was a big "fuck you" to me as an audience member. I know it wasn't intentional and there are definitely other movies that are far, far worse than Titanic, but I still think that is one of the worst endings to a movie I've ever seen. Notting Hill is probably the only movie whose ending enrages me more.

Trey wrote:
Cotterpin Doozer wrote:

日本語は?日本語の字幕が必要ないの?
残念。 sad

Sorry. I felt the need to show off. Don't speak French, tho.

Would be happy to have Japanese subtitles too, if you wanted to do them.  smile

And actually, I am considering some kind of ridiculous subtitle track as well.

I'm game, although my Star Wars loving buddy is backpacking in India at the moment, just when his excessive knowledge of trivia would be most appreciated.

How many pages of dialog are we talking about? I imagine a lot of the jargon is gonna kick my ass, but I'm nonetheless oddly keen to try.

日本語は?日本語の字幕が必要ないの?
残念。 sad

Sorry. I felt the need to show off. Don't speak French, tho.

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Philip wrote:
Cotterpin Doozer wrote:

But even worse than that, Jiro Dreams of Sushi feels like there's a much better movie underneath it all that the filmmaker simply wasn't interested in making. He just shot a lot of stunning footage, ate a lot of excellent sushi, set it all to some lovely music, The End. Actually telling a good story... Well, that didn't make it into the final cut. Still, it is a gorgeous movie.

I got the feeling that they shot and spoke about what they had access to. I don't recall ever seeing Jiro's wife or hearing her discussed at any length. I think the doc is mostly about the man, rather than the food. And there were some parts of his story that were not addressed. Still loved it, though.

The fact that the director was given any access at all is probably a small miracle. Artisans of Ono Jiro's caliber are notoriously camera shy in this country.

It is commonly said that there are a great many other small restaurants just like Sukiyabashi Jiro all over Japan that are considered worthy of a Michelin star (or two or three) but which have refused the honor because they don't want the fame that goes with it. I was watching a variety show a few weeks ago where various tv personalities visited half a dozen restaurants famed for their cuisine and attempted to convince the owners to let them film the place for tv. Four out of the six refused to even allow the front of the building to be shown on camera; only one gave them full access and allowed them to meet the chef.

In general, to be a master of your craft in Japan means you inhabit a very secretive world that doesn't invite scrutiny. This, of course, makes it damn near impossible to get anything even remotely resembling the drama necessary to tell a good story. For that reason, I applaud the director for even getting close. But Jiro still feels like only half a movie, and I was a bit disappointed by that.

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Philip wrote:

Watched Jiro Dreams Of Sushi on Netflix last night. I have never tried sushi & have no desire to. I also have a pet peeve of watching people eat, it grosses me out. That being said, it was wonderful. It's more about the man than the food, and I really enjoyed the shallow depth of field used so much and the wide shots, really nice scoring as well. Gorgeous is a good word to describe it.

I make no efforts to convert people to my favorite foods. The less sushi on your plate, the more for me!  big_smile

But I agree 100% that this is a gorgeous movie. If there's on thing I have never been disappointed by in Japan, it's Japanese food. Regardless of whether or not it actually tastes any good, the presentation will always be flawless. I was literally drooling during some scenes.

Unfortunately, living in this country has pretty much made it impossible for me to enjoy foreign produced films about Japan. It's like listening to someone else tell the story of your life and getting all of the details wrong. But even worse than that, Jiro Dreams of Sushi feels like there's a much better movie underneath it all that the filmmaker simply wasn't interested in making. He just shot a lot of stunning footage, ate a lot of excellent sushi, set it all to some lovely music, The End. Actually telling a good story... Well, that didn't make it into the final cut. Still, it is a gorgeous movie.

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1. ElfQuest - Wendy and Richard Pini have been trying to get a movie version of their comic book series done for years now. I'm dying to see an animated version of this story on the big screen. I would sacrifice my other two wishes just to get this one made.

2. Howl's Moving Castle - Someone needs to fix the awful mess Hayao Miyazaki made of Diane Wynne Jones's delightful book. Being Studio Ghibli, it's an absolutely gorgeous film, of course, but Miyazaki butchered the story in his adaptation and the voice acting is completely off the mark in both Japanese and the English dub. The spin-off/sequel, Castle in the Air, would also be much appreciated.

3. The Neverending Story - As much as I adore the original film, I completely understand why Michael Ende didn't want his name anywhere near it. The book deserves a more faithful adaptation, preferably as two films, because it really is wonderful.


Appropriately enough, the latest Metal Floss video is about abandoned and incomplete film projects.  big_smile

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STRINGS (2004)
*This is a fanmade trailer, btw. The official trailer sucks.


So Trey mentioned this briefly in another thread, and I decided to give it a go because puppets = awesome, and the description said "fantasy," and that's pretty much all it takes with me.

I guess if I'm to review this movie, I should to do what everybody does and gush over the visuals and how the marionettes are incorporated into the story. So much fine detail went into creating this gorgeous film, that it really deserves every bit of praise it gets on that front. The marionettes mouths don't move, but nonetheless their still faces manage to convey so much emotion. Incredible amounts of thought and energy must have gone into building the beautiful sets and with such a wide variety of locations, what you're looking at never gets boring.

The way the marionette strings are used in the story is pretty awesome as well. They aren't using marionettes to tell the story; this is a story about world of marionettes. The buildings don't have roofs and the city gate is simply a bar across the entrance to block the forward momentum of the strings; someone pulling on your strings will make you lose control of that limb; cutting the strings results in the permanent disability of that limb or death, in the case of the head string; and because they're made of wood and string, characters age by slowly deteriorating until the wood crumbles and their strings snap. There were a few little places where it seemed the creators were cheating against the established logic, mostly in the latter half of the film, but overall, I thought the world-building was brilliantly done.

Now only if the story were any good...

The plot is unoriginal and uninspired, while also being confusing as hell. I wish they'd used this world of marionettes to do an adaptation of Hamlet or Romeo and Juliet 'cause they're ripping off those stories hardcore, but fail to combine those borrowed elements into anything worthwhile. The story is utterly dour, without the slightest hint of humor. Motivations are murky as hell, and characters rarely seem to do anything for any reason other than the plot says so. The second half is where most of the story problems are found, and the last act feels rushed and poorly thought out.

In any case, although I'm glad I saw Strings, I'm not left with any desire to revisit these characters. Perhaps I might give it the Prometheus Treatment, pop the disc in, put it on mute, and just enjoy the visuals.

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I watched the director's cut of The Act of Killing, and good Lord, is it too damn long. I was feeling antsy and more than a little bored well before it hit the two hour mark, so I don't think I would have any more appreciation for the theatrical cut.

For me, the problem with The Act of Killing is that it is burdened by Joshua Oppenheimer's original intent when going to Indonesia: interviewing and filming the stories of survivors of the 1965-66 killings. But talking to the survivors proved extremely dangerous for everyone, and the only ones left alive who knew exactly what the death squads had done were the members of the death squads. So the documentary makes the villains the stars of the film, with only a short cameo by survivor.

I get the feeling that this didn't sit well with Oppenheimer, and so he had to make sure he gave these villains enough rope to hang themselves. Unfortunately, a lot of the screen time spent with the paramilitary group and various mustache-twirling politicians ultimately feels excessive. It helps set the stage, but at 100 minutes in, we don't need to be introduced to some new evil asshole, basking in his evil assholery, who promptly disappears and bears absolutely no impact on the film overall. It's like Oppenheimer didn't trust his audience to recognize the evil elephant in the room unless he pointed it out to them over and over and over again. But the more we see them, the less they seem to connect to Anwar's story and the whole thing seems to drag on forever.

There are two people I would've like to see more of: Anwar's friend, Adi Zulkadry, and Suryono, the man who told the story of his stepfather's murder. To be honest, I'm not sure in what way further footage of Suryono would be able to help tell the story, but it sure would be nice to hear a bit more from survivors of the killings rather than the perpetrators. Adi, on the other hand, is such an interesting contrast to Anwar. He is hyper-aware of the evil he has wrought. He seems rather well-educated, knowledgeable about the politics involved, that no good can actually come of them making this movie that seeks to glorify their brutality. His grim pragmatism is a bit terrifying, but it doesn't seem to have given him much more peace of mind than Anwar.

I should point out, because the movie doesn't, you only find this sort of open bragging about the massacres in Northern Sumatra. A lot of people were killed in Bali and Java as well, but it's only in Sumatra, where the death squads were led by organized crime, that you'll find people willing to be so incredibly frank about their crimes.

Also, the confusion over the word "gangster" is because the subtitles fail to distinguish between the English word, the Indonesian word, and the Dutch root word. The Indonesian word is preman, and roughly translates to hoodlum, thug or gangster. However it is based on the Dutch root word, which actually does mean "free man."

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Squiggly_P wrote:

Welcome To The Punch:
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This has a 50% on rottentomatoes.com, and I can't for the life of me figure out why. This movie is fucking fantastic.

Now you've got me wondering if I saw the same movie you did, because I thought it was dull, style-over-substance, derivative bullshit.  wink

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Zarban wrote:

Cotterpin Doozer wrote:

But really, there's no need for them to be villains, at all. For one thing, most poor kids don't mug people, and having a group of streetwise teenagers would've been enough to sell the movie's premise.

The point of the film is that the aliens land in a bad London neighborhood. The neighborhood is saved by people most Britons don't like. At the beginning of the film, Moses is on his way to becoming like Hi-Hatz. By the end, he is a hero.

I fail to see how this contradicts my point. Having Moses break into the car and the scene where Hi-Hatz recruits him to sell for him are enough to establish him as a "bad" kid making a series of bad choices, which he ultimately regrets and attempts to make up for. But the mugging is rather a lot for him to make up for during the movie's short run time.

Zarban wrote:

To be fair to you, the film makers would probably soften that opening if they had it to do over again. In the commentary, Cornish says he imagines this is the first mugging these kids try, but the script clearly has them saying that they've done this before; Moses "always picks poor people" to rob.

Yeah, Jerome says something to the effect of them being just as scared as Sam was. But again, because we start from her POV, we never get to see them as a bunch of nervous kids deciding to mug somebody for the first time.


Jimmy B wrote:

But these ones do.

My point was that it isn't necessary and contributes nothing to the story. Living in a high crime area, with drug dealers and violence, is enough of a set up without actually having the kids gang up on and rob a woman in the opening scene.

BigDamnArtist wrote:

After like 6 or 7 episodes of watching them go around in the same little circle, I said screw it and stopped. And I never heard a single word from anywhere that said I should ever go back. So I didn't.

No argument here. SGU could be a very frustrating watch sometimes. I'm sure somewhere on the interwebs my many rants against the show are preserved for all time. But much like my relationship with Doctor Who, I couldn't quit SGU, so I'm one of the few who was still around when it got really good. Unfortunately, that's the same point at which Syfy started seriously dicking around with the schedule. They wanted to bump a show to make room for goddamned wrestling, of all things, so they decided to let Sanctuary stay put and give the kiss of death to SGU. The show had gotten so much better, but it's hard for word of mouth to spread when you don't know when to tell people to tune in. In any case, I was sad to see it go, especially as it seems all of the rest of the tv franchise related projects are dead in the water.

Saniss wrote:

I watched maybe two episodes of Universe before deciding it was too much serious business for a Stargate series.

BigDamnArtist wrote:

And I stopped Universe after about 6 episodes.

I may be one of the few fans of SG-1 and Atlantis who also loved Universe. It definitely had its problems early on, but the serious tone never bothered me. The second season got off to a better start, and the show was brilliant towards the end. It was a completely undeserved cancellation.

I'm not sure how I feel about rebooting the Stargate film franchise. I'm not a big fan of the original movie. The world-building is there, but the characters are dull. That's pretty much a deal-breaker for me.