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I have to call bullshit on that whole idea. That's a fundamentally age-ist viewpoint, and I would actually pretty strongly disagree about Scott's more recent filmography. I think Kingdom of Heaven DC is outstanding, I think Black Hawk Down is a fucking impressive film-making accomplishment, and American Gangster is way better than people give it credit for.

Clint Eastwood has had many misses as a director, but he's also made several excellent films in the last 20 years.

Woody Allen has had plenty of good late career films.

I agree that there's certainly an aspect of a "hungry" young film-maker trying to prove themselves that results in a higher success rate, but it's not a firm rule by any means.

Reading the interviews with Ridley/Lindelof, it's clear to me that Lindelof/Spaights were the weak link on Prometheus, not Ridley. Ridley basically threw out a bunch of ideas he thought would be interesting (and I think they are, personally I think the whole Space Jesus thing is a really ballsy way to go and a neat sci-fi concept), and had Lindelof write a script around them. The flaws here are "connective tissue/dialogue" more than the concepts themselves, which is the fault of the screen-writer. Furthermore, the design and technical aspects of the film are absolutely outstanding, so you can't tell me Ridley's lost it or wasn't giving it his all on the project. If he's to blame, it's for approving the script, and not hiring some-one else to take a pass on it and refine the dialogue.

If Blade Runner 2 is being written by the original writers of Blade Runner 1 (which I believe is the case), then I think that movie could still turn out absolutely great.

Reminds me of http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmdimqJPA51qcga5ro1_500.jpg

God I want to live in a world where Episode 1 could be that awesome

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(62 replies, posted in Episodes)

Christ this thread has really spiraled downward into an abyss hasn't it

I liked Haywire quite a bit (it's in my favorite genre, "arthouse badass"). Loved the long-take no-bullshit fight scenes, the one with Fassbender is outstanding. Carano had some weak moments, but I think she'll grow into the acting thing (she's no worse than JCVD in his older stuff).

Chronicle is outstanding in my opinion, I think the movie captures modern day high school much better than pretty much any movie I've seen, I love that there's scenes where characters are chatting while all of them are just sitting around on their cell-phones texting/browsing. If I have regrets, it's that I wish that they had gone District 9 style and abandoned the found footage angle for the end movie battle, though I understand that this helped them keep their budget down (12 mil?!!!).

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(62 replies, posted in Episodes)

I'm not seeing it in chrome...... Is this showing up different?

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Needs to be a bit more subtle. Better would be some kind of text distortion effect, like italics on steroids

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(62 replies, posted in Episodes)

Internet needs sarcasm tags, oh well (although I do think How to Train your Dragon is an outstanding score).

I find it really interesting to hear Trey's perspective on having his childhood years treated like a historical bio-pic. That's going to be so weird when we're older and they're making movies set in the 90s, and having to immaculately set design game boy colors, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle posters, and pokemon toys.

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(62 replies, posted in Episodes)

If Brian can hate on JJ Trek, I can hate on Giachinno.  big_smile

And he can't be the new John Williams, cause John Powell is already the new John Williams.

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(62 replies, posted in Episodes)

My reaction when you called Giachinno the new John Williams:

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Ya, like a simple way to say it is that if Blade Runner had failings, they were because it refused to follow hollywood 3-act conventions and give you everything you expect (which is what makes it cool). Prometheus is much more conventional, and it's failings are the same as any other stupid Summer blockbuster from the last 5 years.

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(62 replies, posted in Episodes)

But......then we have to wait a year for them to talk about new releases ):

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I've seen other people bring this up, and I tend to disagree with the comparison.

For starters, the Blade Runner that people love now is pretty significantly different from the Blade Runner that was released theatrically, and I just don't see a Prometheus director's cut being such a radical departure that it would suddenly make it into a masterpiece (though I hold out hope it will make it at least a solid genre movie).

More importantly, I would say that Blade Runner is a vastly more subtle movie, both in terms of theme, character, and dialogue, which makes it easier to be re-assessed with a different interpretation.
Not being born when it came out, I can't put my self into the frame of mind of an audience that disliked it, because I love the ever-loving shit out of the movie, but I would guess the criticism would be that the movie takes it's time, is kinda vague in places, and the lead character is pretty unlikable (which is the whole point of the movie, but I digress). Prometheus' problems are very different and almost opposite. It's not a subtle movie at all, characters constantly re-state all the supposed themes, and more importantly there is lots of pretty bad dialogue that immediately jumps out at you. These are the kinds of obvious fundamental issues that don't go away with time and re-interpretation, unless the movie is meant to be a satire of bad science fiction movies (which I've actually seen people try to argue).

Frankly the comparison makes me cringe, I mean christ, this movie ends with a fan-service shot of an alien crawling out of a bald dude. Blade Runner ends with the villain rescuing the hero, both physically and psychologically, and lamenting his mortality as he dies.

Lets not go crazy here people.

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It bums me out the more I think about it, because honestly, a couple of slight restructuring and script tweaks would make the movie INFINITELY more satisfying, just as a genre thriller. I actually don't mind the open endedness and lack of payoff as much, but it's just unsatisfying on a sci-fi thriller level. Like literally, instead of doing  the surgery scene in the middle, move it to the end, and instead have a small breather where the characters acknowledge the fact that one of them was just burned alive after being infected with an alien virus. Cut out the random zombie attack scene.
Have them discuss the situation a bit, speculate about what might be going on, THEN jump into the Weyland stuff.

That would both mimic the structure of Alien better, give the middle act a breather to reset for the climax, and give us a stronger and more satisfying climax. And it's literally like a day or two worth of script edits.......ARGH

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According to Ridley, Apparently 20-30 minutes was cut out and will make it's way onto the blu-ray release, including a fight scene with Shaw and the engineer at the end (I thought the current confrontation was way too abrupt, so yay). Might at least help fix some of the disjointedness.

I prefer Mission to Mars for the EVA scene, which is still really awesome.

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Man, he already kinda looked like an old man in the 70s.........40 YEARS AGO! (also known as Max Von Sydow syndrome)

You're forgetting Abyss came out that same year (talk about a leap in quality across the 3):

Abyss > Leviathan > Deep Star Six

Among the similar title/same release year movies:

Dante's Peak > Volcano
Deep Impact > Armageddon
Antz > Bug's Life

Ya, I saw it for the first time a few weeks ago on Netflix Instant. Very crazy/awesome schlock movie with an outstanding cast. See, this is the kind of movie that just can't get made in today's studio system anymore, the mid-budget crazy/weird/experimental genre movie.

It's a shame the original cinematographer got fired on that movie after the first few days. He shot the night-club sequence, which is by far the most atmospheric and cool looking section of the movie, whereas the rest has a really flat look to it. And ya, Ellen Barkin is operating at 80s Lea Thompson levels of hotness in that movie.

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If you'd told me a week ago that Ridley Scott's return to Science Fiction would be inferior to Chronicles of Riddick, I'd have laughed in your face. At least there's hope for next year: We get Blomkamp's Elysium movie, Cuaron's Gravity, and Twohy's Riddick movie.

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If you can see it in a nice Imax 3d screening, it's for my money the best 3d movie I've ever seen (including Avatar). The depth is amazing, without being distracting, and there's loads of cool stuff, like holograms, and a dust storm sequence where dust debris is flying in front of the screen and characters. As a Space Nerd, it was definitely worth it to me to see it once, but I wouldn't watch it again.

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^^^ Basically everything you guys said.

I will also add......How the FUCK does David magically know how to read and SPEAK the alien language?!! They're assuming ancient human languages are based off the alien language or something, which is a huge stretch to begin with, but there's no way he would know how you're supposed to Vocalize the language.
Actually, I like to think that David said something really offensive to the Bald dude by accident, which is why the guy instantly ripped his head off and started murdering people.

The other thing that really pissed me off...so Shaw is impregnated with an Alien, they're about to put her in stasis. She knocks a couple guys out, runs off and self-operates on herself. No-one follows her or tries to chase her down, no-one is looking for her or seems to show any interest. Then she stumbles back into the room completely bloodied, and everyone's just super casual about it, no questions, no-one following up on what happened with the ALIEN LIFEFORM ONBOARD THE SHIP!!!

That really pisses me off too, because in isolation, it's an excellent horror set-piece, but it's completely in the wrong part of the movie structurally. She should not realize she's pregnant, until close to the end, when the shit has already hit the fan. The proto-human guy is running around killing people, and chasing after her. And on top of everything she realizes she's impregnated and is going to die from within. How much scarier would it be if she has to self-operate while the proto-human guy can come running in at any second. And then, as soon as she crawls out totally bloodied and exhausted, she still has to fight this super-human monster on top of everything. THAT would be an awesome climax, and make so much more sense structurally.

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At least on the last point, I think it's safe to say that this is just a different experimental weapon, or earlier form, of what ends up being the eggs on the ship from the original movies (remember this isn't the same planet as the old movies). They might've gone with the egg design at some earlier or later point in their weapons experimentation process.

The mutation inconsistencies are extremely frustrating though, the black stuff is really just magical plot mutation stuff, extremely lazy writing. I think the more you try to rationalize and figure out a "rule-set" for it, the more it breaks down and just doesn't make any sense. I think it works best if you just think of it as this awful unknown bio-weapon that has random mutative effects designed to create random fucked up creatures out of your victims. It's very lovecraftian in that it's just this unknown fucked up thing that has no rhyme or reason but is horrible and terrifying. Doesn't excuse the writing, but I can kind of enjoy and go with it on that level.

The biggest issue to me is the cave paintings that set off the whole story make 0 sense once you find out where things are going. If this was a secret military installation researching bio-weapons that they were planning to deploy on earth (which by the way the characters seem to figure out without any evidence at all), how/why was it's location printed on earth? When the movie started I thought they were going with the whole "the destination is a trap designed to kill off any sufficiently advanced races" storyline, which would've been a cool and streamlined direction for the story. But if it's just a military factory, and they were planning to wipe out humanity way back then, it doesn't make sense. Also, so there's an accident and everyone at this top secret military installation dies off. Home base never bothers to check up on them or bring in any assistance? For that matter, there's apparently other ships on this planet. You're telling me that everyone got killed off due to an accident on MULTIPLE different ships? What kind of fucking coincidence is that?

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Ya agreed, I get what they were going for: "this movie is like 2001 man, it's about the WONDER of discovery", but it was a bad call, a real bad call. I would like to see someone fan edit this thing and re-score it with alien/alien3 music.

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Ya, this is the most flagrant case of director bias I've ever seen from the critical community. If anyone else's name was on the director credit, the movie would be 10-20% lower on Rotten Tomatoes.

And jesus, 4 stars ebert, really man?!

I still would say the film isn't bad, like I said, I have no big issues with it until everyone decides to take their helmets off, and it's actually building to something amazing until that point. Ultimately it's just a disappointing middle-of-the-road failure of a movie, with some cool parts. Like if this was a movie you knew nothing about and caught on cable, I think it's totally watchable, I would put it in the same camp as something like Leviathan (actually these two movies are amazingly similar, down to the premise, out-of-place score, and stupid ending). But a good successful movie it is fucking not.