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There's a few DUNE references in Star Wars - Tatooine as desert planet, moisture farms, the sarlaac pit as stationary sandworm, jawas/sandpeople as who live deep in the desert, the krayt dragon skeleton is elongated like a sandworm. Gary Kurtz gave a Weekend Masterclass Course in London last year about making Star Wars and cited a long list of influences, including Dune.

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At least you didn't start mixing your franchises - 'here's Gandalf and Neo riding into Hogwarts on Aslan just before the Persian army attacks'

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Just getting the ROTK mp3 now. Were there tears?
I can remember people starting to cry in the cinema when Sam carries Frodo up the mountain.
And when Boromir dies. And when Gandalf 'dies'. And when Sam & Frodo give their 'I can see the shire' speech.
And when Aragorn & Arwen get back together during the coronation. And at the Grey Havens.

I haven't seen so many people cry in a movie-theatre since Jar Jar stepped in the poopy.

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10-episode self-contained series: sounds great. Can you have a treatment on my desk by 9:00AM tomorrow?

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The first book is definitely the most cinematic - the Paul & his mother in the desert sequence was very memorable, and the finale with the sandworm attack on Arakeen.

Hardly anything happens in the other books - just talking 'n stuff.

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Good on him. Who can begrudge him those billions if he's doing things like that, rather than snorting coke off hookers.

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Yes, that's right, there were dozens of little aphorisms e.g. 'The predator strengthens the stock' or 'Never sit with your back to the door'.
I liked how Frank Herbert began his chapters with pithy quotes from 'historical sources' as if these were from archival chronicles. That was a good device.
All those Houses of the Landsraad - it was more about medieval Europe than orthodox sci-fi with technology being all but expunged.

I didn't mind the Toto score, and the 'Prophecy Theme' from Brian Eno.

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Subtext - wait until you get to 'God Emperor of Dune' - the entire book is cryptic conversations like what you describe:  profound but opaque discussions of human nature buried in layers of 'clever' sub-text. As a school-kid, I thought I was too dumb to get it, but 20 years on, I think that a second reading would reveal a bit of pretentiousness.

Yes, casting Paul is make or break. Otherwise you get an Orlando Bland in Kingdom of Heaven scenario where the entire epic scale is let down by a pretty boy on his gap year.

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Frank Herbert visited Australia for a Sci-Fi/Fantasy convention in about 1984 when the movie came out and I met him a couple of times in Sydney for a lunch and for a signing. Got the trilogy signed and Chapter House Dune signed - which I subsequently sold on eBay over 20 years later (somewhat regrettably).

Who would you cast for Paul these days? A mature 15 year old... hmm... that's charismatic warrior intellectual...?

There's a few things the Lynch movie did well: the supporting cast was good (Jessica, BG Mother Superior, Duke Leto, mentats, etc) and some of the production design was okay.

But Arakeen was non-existent, the Harkonnens were caricature moustache-twirlers (complete with cackling), 
Patrick Stewart was wasted, Duncan Idaho even more so, where did that sonic weapon stuff come from?, and it was incomprehensible to anyone who hadn't read the book. And Paul shouldn't make it rain at the end.

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Big fan of Dune. Read the first four when I was in school, met Frank Herbert just before he died and saw the movie at the cinema a few times. Have since preferred both the Alan Smithee '3 hour' cut and the TV series for going into greater detail. Haven't read the 'cash in on my daddy' sequels/prequels - have you?

I don't think a 2 hour move can do justice to all the complexities of Dune, no matter how awesome the effects. It's not an action movie nor should it be a SPFX extravaganza. A 3 x 3 hour LOTR treatment would be sufficient, but I can't see Hollywood greenlighting a glorification of 'Taliban guerillas' (desert-dwelling religious freedom fighters with Arabic names fighting evil corporations extracting spice/oil from the sands).

A lot of the criticism about John Carter was directed at its bland scenery. Dune's is potentially even more bland.

What did you think of the 'filmed on a Prague soundstage' TV series?

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Dark Coyote wrote:

I don't like to let go. George raped our childhoods and I want him to pay for it. I know that he never will but doesn't mean I can't want it.

Not only did he not have to pay for it, he was handsomely rewarded. Yes, life is full of injustices.
Lucas must be the luckiest film-maker in history i.e. earning the most amount of money with the least amount of talent.  Just about every creative decision he's made in the last 15 years has irked and baffled the original SW fans. This leads many to suspect that the concepts that made Star Wars awesome in 1977-1983 had nothing to do with Lucas. Perhaps the less clout and the less input he had in making the original trilogy, the better the films were. I haven't forensically scrutinized the 'making of' books to see if this thesis holds up, but it wouldn't surprise me.

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Howard Shore's 11 hour LOTR scores (sustained high quality)
John Williams' Star Wars scores (among the best ever)
Most of Clint Mansell's scores, especially The Fountain and Moon
Heat
Also Michael Mann's Last of the Mohicans is epic (also love The Insider)
Gladiator - Lisa Gerrard's contributions are evocative during the end death scene
Ridley Scott movies generally have atmospheric scores: Blade Runner is a classic, as is 1492 & Kingdom of Heaven and Hannibal
Most of Angelo Badalamenti's scores for Lynch e.g. Mulholland Drive
A Single Man (similar to The Fountain), as is The Road's score
Kubrick: Barry Lyndon and Eyes Wide Shut scores
Alien3 - the best of the Alien series's scores imho
Master & Commander
Ennio Morricone's collaborations with Sergio Leone
The Mission - better than the movie
Witness - Maurice Jarre
Dune by Toto
Others with selected great tracks: True Grit, Meet Joe Black, Gattaca, Rocky, Pan's Labyrinth, King Kong, Up

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You've gotta learn to let go, man. As Simon Pegg did in Spaced, take all your Star Wars videos, action figures, posters, books, computer games, and other Lucasarts crap and build a big funeral pyre in the yard and burn it. You must pass through the five stages of grieving and once you're out the other side, you won't care about Greedo or the wooden acting or the boring plot or lame effects ever again. Lucas could insert 3D Jar Jar all through A New Hope and you won't care.

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Yey! Thanks for TTT  big_smile

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Coming this summer from Roger Corman: The Texas Quadcopter Massacre

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Are there licensing & permit issues with these? Restricted zones? Presumably the blades could injure someone if the pilot lost control or it malfunctioned?

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Wow. There's so much potential!

Dial-a-drone, especially if you can remote-pilot it from the camera-feed.
MacDonalds could home deliver a Meal Deal to your penthouse balcony or yacht in the harbour.
Schoolboys can spy on the pretty classmate
Bicycle couriers will lose their jobs
Log in to one across the world and pre-plan your holiday route through Egypt

btw, can it lift a 3D Imax rig?

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America must be the far green country under a swift sunrise

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That's a faster meltdown than Ted Haggard

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AshDigital wrote:

IO9.com ran a nice article on how a movie makes it's money last year.
http://io9.com/5747305/how-much-money-d … profitable

Thanks. Fascinating article. At least we'll be spared Lucas' Red Tails sequels & prequels.

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Dorkman wrote:

But, on the upside, his claim was "If it's flashy enough with a 3D release, nobody cares if it's good, it'll still make teh mad bankz," which JOHN CARTER handily disproves.

We're up to $110M in Week #1 of release. What's the multiple for a film to be profitable? 2X budget? That would mean $500M is the break-even target. Box Office Mojo only tracks gross receipts of the theatrical run. Does anyone know how much blu-ray sales and other after-run sales contribute to gross on average? I've read some reports that claim the majority of revenue these days comes after the theatrical run, but that may been before downloading DVD/BD rips became rampant.

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Yes, Dawkins is a great writer, and despite the current crop of crazy Republican candidates, the Creationist moment has been beat, at least for a while.

In the same class as Dawkins: for his clarity, accessibility, and provocative slaying of sacred cows is Steven Pinker, the Harvard psychologist. Books like 'The Blank Slate' and 'Better Angels of Our Nature' are up there with Carl Sagan's 'Demon Haunted World' in literally changing the way we think by busting dozens of myths society just takes for granted as 'collective received wisdom'.

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fireproof78 wrote:

I think it was Trey who said that New Line bet its future on these movies and succeed-at least for 10 more years.

Shaye is both hero for his ballsy decision and villain for derailing The Hobbit due to fighting with PJ. From what I understand how Return of the King was financed through a German tax shelter (Hannover Leasing), New Line's profit from the massive box office wasn't as lucrative as it could have been as they had diversified a lot of the risk. Still, they said yes, whereas every other studio refused, so kudos to them.

One day someone will dramatise the backstory of the greenlighting of LOTR, just like there's now 'behind-the-scenes movies' of Hollywood classics.

Wright Brothers to Yuri Gargarin was just over 50 years. Every decade until the 60s there were major breakthroughs with flight, from passenger planes, jets, supersonic, rockets, orbits and moon landings.

But in the last 40 years, we've regressed in terms of transport technology. Here in Europe, we're told 'rail is the future', an 1830s invention.

The 1970s had some bold robotic missions to the planets too: Pioneer, Voyager and Viking. This current decade looks paltry by comparison, with a lot of missions cancelled or 'descoped'.

30 years of tax cuts doesn't help. Since the shift to the political right in early 1980s, western governments are perpetually broke.

Also, we've hit a wall re: new propulsion. It was looking great when we rapidly went from sail to steam to internal combustion engine to rocket, but a new power power source is long overdue. Scramjets? Fusion? Antimatter? All too hard, either with the theory or the engineering. Maybe all the easy problems in science have been solved and it's going to take longer than we thought to get to the next 'order of magnitude' step in progress. Instead of an acceleration in major breakthroughs in transport technology, we're experiencing an deceleration.

Isaac Asimov envisioned a future in his Robot series where humans don't travel anywhere, but the world comes to them via VR 3D holographic screens. After all, IT communications has shot ahead in the same 40 years that transport has stagnated.

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On the cover of every Dune novel is Arthur C Clarke's quote 'I know nothing comparable to it except Lord of the Rings'