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1,179 2012-03-15 13:38:36
Re: THE LORD OF THE RINGS (304 replies, posted in Episodes)
In both cases, the universes both novels create is too elaborate for a conventional 2-3 hour movie, so you need lots of exposition.
You can almost work out mathematically what the maximum number of protagonists for a normal 2-hour movie should be. For movies which are NOT adaptations from novels, you don't want to go over about half a dozen. Too many characters and you need to spend too much screen time fleshing out each one with backstory and motivation and personalities (that pass the Plinkett test). If 5 minutes of screen time is enough to convey backstory, motivation, and personality, then six characters gives you 30 minutes of character development, which is 25% of your 2 hour movie, before you get to action, comedy, love, set-back, and finale.
Now for Dune or Lord of the Rings, the novels contain dozens of characters and complicated elaborate backstories, and it's just too much for a normal movie. Hence the prologue. Luckily Lord of the Rings is an 11 hour movie (I don't think of it as three movies). And Dune is every bit as rich and needed the 9-11 hour treatment as well, or a TV series.
1,180 2012-03-15 13:25:32
Re: Agora (9 replies, posted in Off Topic)
It's got very good production standards - blending the Greek/Roman/Egyptian architecture for that period.
There was just a talk in London tonight about the depiction of Greek astronomy in the movie and what the many objections were to a heliocentric system.
It's quite unflinching in its depiction of Christianity as the harbinger of the Dark Ages. You don't see that too often in big budget movies where faith almost always triumphs over reason ('Luke you switched off your targeting computer').
1,183 2012-03-12 02:24:58
Re: THE LORD OF THE RINGS (304 replies, posted in Episodes)
Someone should post a news-story on THE ONE RING.NET with a link to the mp3s. Let all fans of the LOTR movies experience this amazing achievement.
1,184 2012-03-11 09:11:14
Re: THE LORD OF THE RINGS (304 replies, posted in Episodes)
My friends, you bow to no one
1,186 2012-03-10 08:58:36
Re: THE LORD OF THE RINGS (304 replies, posted in Episodes)
Does anyone know what the original plan was? (I haven't read the books for ages, so I've forgotten).
Had there not been an Orc ambush at the end of FOTR, were the nine going to sneak into Mordor when the Black Gate was open? Or recuperate at Minas Tirith for a while? I've forgotten what was actually decided at the Council of Elrond. In the movie, Elijah volunteers to 'take the ring' but there was no discussion of how or by which route into Mordor.
1,192 2012-03-10 07:30:59
Re: THE LORD OF THE RINGS (304 replies, posted in Episodes)
The reason given was always that the Eagles can't be summoned at will, but they are:
Gandalf calls them on his 'moth phone' on top of Orthanc
Gandalf calls them outside the Black Gate
Gandalf calls them to rescue the Hobbits passed out on the rock
They are his bitches. Gandalf could float Middle Earth Airways on the Gondor Stock Exchange
1,193 2012-03-10 06:35:12
Re: THE LORD OF THE RINGS (304 replies, posted in Episodes)
Cast nationality breakdown:
At least it's not good-guys = Yanks, bad-guys = Poms
Heads of Rivendell, Lothlorien & Gondor: Aussies
Love interests: Yank & Aussie & Kiwi
Sam & Frodo: Yanks (although Peter Jackson originally intended Brits)
Evil bastards: Count Dooku (Brit), Wormtongue (Yank)
Most of the Fellowship: Brits
Wizards: Brits
Local NZ actors: Besides Eomer, virtually no one with speaking parts
1,194 2012-03-10 05:49:56
Re: THE LORD OF THE RINGS (304 replies, posted in Episodes)
Tolkien was born in Victorian England and in many ways was a man of his time in respect to class, women, religion, race, reaction to modernity, etc.
If one were re-imagining LOTR today, you'd need to include at least one woman in the fellowship, probably a kick-arse woman (maybe Legolas would change gender). And Sam couldn't be Frodo's gardener (i.e. social inferior). And having dark skin wouldn't imply that you're evil. Maybe an Orc would betray his race and help out the fellowship. And maybe some of the pseudo-religious aspects would be toned down.
What other aspects of LOTR feel antiquated today i.e. if you were writing the novels now, you'd feel compelled to change?
1,195 2012-03-10 02:04:54
Re: THE LORD OF THE RINGS (304 replies, posted in Episodes)
Frodo = Luke (no love interests, both raised by their uncles)
Gandalf = Obi Wan (respawning wise old mentors)
Merry & Pippin = C3PO & R2D2 (comic relief)
Aragorn = Han (able to take out countless enemies)
Legolas = Chewy (bow/bowcaster)
Orthanc/Isengard & Barad-Dur = Death Star (all three under construction)
Drop the ring into the volcano = Drop the photon-torpedo into the exhaust port (all problems are solved)
Tatooine = The Shire (the farm)
Saruman = Darth Vader (the deputy)
Sauron = The Emperor (evil personified)
Prancing Pony at Bree = Cantina at Mos Eisley (an altercation, pick up Aragorn/Han)
Nazgul & Orcs = Stormtroopers
Elves & Rohan & Gondor = Rebel Alliance
Frodo loses a finger = Luke loses a hand
Galadriel = Yoda (help along the way)
Look in the mirror = Look in the cave
Sting = Lightsaber (both are inherited and both glow blue!)
Balrog / Shelob = Wampa / Rancor (obstacles along the way)
Watcher in the Water = creature in the trash compactor
Wearing Orc amour as disguise in Mordor = wearing Stormtrooper armour as disguise on Death Star
Ents = Ewoks (both allies from the forest)
Wagnerian leitmotifs in the score = Ditto
Enemies have superior numbers but inferior fighting skills = Ditto
'My friends, you bow to no one' = Applause & Medals
Anything else?
1,197 2012-03-09 17:40:38
Re: THE LORD OF THE RINGS (304 replies, posted in Episodes)
Another question for discussion in hour nine:
Which character should get their own spin-off TV series?
1,198 2012-03-09 17:19:03
Re: THE LORD OF THE RINGS (304 replies, posted in Episodes)
I don't know half the Harry Potter films half as well as I should not like, and I like less than half of them half as well as they deserve
1,199 2012-03-09 17:05:17
Re: THE LORD OF THE RINGS (304 replies, posted in Episodes)
Don't worry, it's just a warm-up for the Harry Potter movie marathon commentary on Sunday.
1,200 2012-03-09 16:54:07
Re: THE LORD OF THE RINGS (304 replies, posted in Episodes)
I'd prefer three files, one for each movie, but it might be more convenient to break them up by disc (for sync purposes).
Looking forward to this - I can fly from London to Singapore and Down in Front will still be discussing Lord of the Rings, while all the other schmucks on the plane are watching Adam Sandler movies.
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