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http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/12/10/ … ax-footage

MILD SPOILERS TO FOLLOW

I'm quite irked that we still won't know who Benny's playing, but I'm thrilled that they're doing a Bond-style pre-titles sequence. That's been one of my hopes for years now, that they do something like that to show the Enterprise crew on their usual mission, letting the audience know that it's not always galaxy level threats and Earth-saving for them. TOS is still my favorite Star Trek, so all I'm really looking for in this movie is some fun, maybe slightly campy action-adventure centered around an intriguing concept and a set of lovable, well-drawn characters. I don't understand the people who think Star Trek needs to be more than that, but then I can't seem to get into The Next Generation anyway. Maybe that holds the answers.

If I have one major complaint about Abrams' first movie, it's that Bones took a back seat to Uhura. Flesh out her character and make her a more active participant than she was in the show, absolutely. But it shouldn't come at the expense of the big three.

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I've watched this trailer somewhere in the neighborhood of twenty times today. I am VERY excited for this movie. I have certain apprehensions about some of the things they're showing, but mostly I'm just stoked. I love the first Abrams Trek to pieces, so a second helping unencumbered by the prequel/reboot plot gymnastics of last time, and enCumberbatched, villain-wise, is just such an exciting prospect.

I just hope they don't push the whole "Into Darkness" thing too far. There aren't enough fun movies anymore. Especially action and sci-fi.

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I just hope they spend more time in their Starfleet uniforms than this teaser would seem to imply. I love those colorful TOS outfits. Black leather and trenchcoats I can see anywhere.

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Jimmy B wrote:
Doctor Submarine wrote:

Breaking Bad, hell yes. Stick with it, it pays off. The Walking Dead? Debatable. Some people thought season 2 dragged, and I see where they're coming from. Season 3 has been phenomenal thus far, though.

I agree wholeheartedly about The Walking Dead, I am amazed at just how much better it is now. Although, the last few eps of s2 were pretty good too in my opinion. Season three is just brilliant, though.

I've got to disagree with season three being brilliant. Season three is competent, moreso than the seasons that came before. And most of the cast has found their character by now. And yet... I know it's a cliche to say that the book is better, but the show is just the story of the comics told less effectively. And I say this not even as a real fan of the comics. I had never heard of them until the show came out. I read the first five TPB's in between the season one finale and the season two premiere. It's a good comic, but I haven't had the urge to read more just yet. That said, the storytelling of the comic is head and shoulders above what they've done with the same material in the show. The characters are better developed and the story takes more shocking turns, even within a largely identical framework.

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MadBadCoyote wrote:
Mr. Pointy wrote:

Ewoks are adorable, and those who hate them are horrible, cynical, heartless bastards.

Agreed!

Also, I recently watched Season 1 of Breaking Bad and The Walking Dead.


My opinion on both: meh
(do either get any better?)

I was totally in love with The Walking Dead pilot. I thought it was tremendous and couldn't recommend it enough. Then the season steadily went downhill from there.

Season two also had a pretty great opener, I thought. And then descended into HEALTHY amounts of suck faster than anything I'd ever seen.

Season three... great opener. Been going downhill since then, but not as quickly this time. Progress?

Except with Andrea. She continues to be the worst female character I can think of in television.

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I listened to the episode having seen nothing more than the trailers that were posted here a while back. It's still an interesting discussion about documentary filmmaking and the fan-film subculture in general. I probably would have gotten a little more out of it if I had seen the documentary beforehand, but it was entertaining nevertheless.

I think if I can find it in regular old 2D, 24p, I'm going to go with that first. That way I can just sit down and appreciate the movie for what it is, without being distracted by the new technology. Then, if it's playing in HFR 3D somewhere relatively nearby, I'll check that one out to see what it's like.

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Doctor Submarine wrote:

I actually don't like the song Live and Let Die that much. The chorus is great, but the song as a whole is kind of schizophrenic. It bounces all over the place in terms of tempo, style, and tone.

The song is one of the sole redeeming features of Live and Let Die for me. That and the incandescent Ms. Jane Seymour.

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Jimmy B wrote:

My top five Bond theme songs-

1. Live and Let Die
2. A View To A Kill
3. The Living Daylights
4. Goldfinger
5. Nobody Does It Better

smile

I heartily approve of these selections. Though I'd put The Living Daylights over A View to a Kill.

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TheGreg wrote:

Absolutely I do. We're at the stage of civilization where we are able to give everyone in the world access to every work of science, literature, and yes, entertainment, that has ever been created at a marginal cost of nothing at all. Just think of the potential for progress, education, and human happiness. And yet we're so limited in our imagination and creativity that the first thing that we try to do having created this miracle is to try desperately to re-invent scarcity.

That makes me very sad, and a little depressed about human nature.

I just don't understand who's putting up the money to make films in this grand new utopia where everybody can have everything for free. Film became a business and stayed a business because you just can't make films unless they make money back. If nobody HAS to pay money for entertainment, most people WON'T. Yes, you have a certain type of person, like a lot of people on this forum, I'm sure, who would donate money to support their favorite artists. But they're going to be a minority. And if there's no money to be made in film, why would anybody make a film?

EDIT - Jimmy pretty much said the exact same thing, and better. Thunder-stealing asshat.

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TheGreg wrote:

I see why you don't want to think of the information encoded in an mp3 as information, but I do think that it is. I guess we can differ on that, but the point does seem semantic.

So do you believe that all media; music, film, television, should be freely available to everybody? If so, how do you feel about something like Hulu, where you can watch programs online for free with limited advertisements, or pay a subscription fee and have access to more content? How do you feel about advertisements in general?

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TheGreg wrote:
C-Spin wrote:
TheGreg wrote:

The point is that the legal system has different laws against theft and piracy.
Your argument is like saying 'there are laws against theft and rape, therefore theft is rape.'

Well, I said in that same post why I think it morally fits any definition of theft. And I know the studios that lobbied for the laws consider it theft (*generic rock music*YOU WOULDN'T STEAL A CAR!!!"). I'm not familiar with the wording used in any of these laws, feel free to clue me in with some cited examples and I'll concede the point.

Unfortunately from Wikipedia - but you'll get the drift:
"Courts have distinguished between copyright infringement and theft holding, for instance, in the United States Supreme Court case Dowling v. United States (1985), that bootleg phonorecords did not constitute stolen property and that "interference with copyright does not easily equate with theft, conversion, or fraud. The Copyright Act even employs a separate term of art to define one who misappropriates a copyright: '[...] an infringer of the copyright.'" The court said that in the case of copyright infringement, the province guaranteed to the copyright holder by copyright law—certain exclusive rights—is invaded, but no control, physical or otherwise, is taken over the copyright, nor is the copyright holder wholly deprived of using the copyrighted work or exercising the exclusive rights held."

That's fair enough, point conceded. Doesn't make piracy any less objectionable in my eyes, and it doesn't change my thoughts on the proposed "pay if you want," system, but you have me here.

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TheGreg wrote:

The point is that the legal system has different laws against theft and piracy.
Your argument is like saying 'there are laws against theft and rape, therefore theft is rape.'

Well, I said in that same post why I think it morally fits any definition of theft. And I know the studios that lobbied for the laws consider it theft (*generic rock music*YOU WOULDN'T STEAL A CAR!!!"). I'm not familiar with the wording used in any of these laws, feel free to clue me in with some cited examples and I'll concede the point.

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TheGreg wrote:

Well, I'm sorry, but the definition I am using is the one in use by the legal system. Please feel free to make up your own, but it's going to make it difficult for you to communicate with others who are using the normal definitions of words. Taking something so that someone else doesn't have it any more is theft. Making an exact copy is not theft.

Okay... First of all, we've already agreed that the legal system has laws against piracy. So obviously your definition is not the same as the one in use by the legal system, or you would consider piracy stealing too.

Second of all, theft is defined with any number of different wordings, but all seem to agree that it's taking somebody else's property without their permission. Yes, it used to mean strictly the physical act of taking, because that's all there ever could be. That's not the case now. You're so hot for updating things for the 21st century, let's do this one. Taking = acquiring. Okay, acquiring somebody's property without their permission. Films are intellectual property. You don't have permission to possess that property without first having paid. If you acquire a film without paying money for it, you have just stolen that intellectual property.

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TheGreg wrote:

No. Let's deal with this again. Stealing is where I take something, and you don't have it any more. Copying is where I make an exact copy, and you are completely unaffected.

That's a narrow definition of stealing to suit your argument. You are taking a product that you haven't paid for and haven't any right to possess. That is theft. It doesn't matter that there are an unlimited number of copies and you aren't depriving anybody of something by your act of theft.

TheGreg wrote:

Yes, there are. That doesn't mean there should be.

That's an entirely different debate.

TheGreg wrote:

Yes, it would be like CocaCola trying to sell bottled water when the same product was available for free in every building in America. Impossible.

First of all, I never said impossible. I just said it would be different, and it unquestionably would be. Second of all, you're arguing with an example that has a relationship to this topic that is so far from 1:1. Not everybody has good tap water at home. I happen to, so I almost never buy bottled water. Sometimes you're somewhere like a ball-park and it's hot and you want some water, but there are no water fountains or... creeks or whatever nearby. So you go to a vendor and buy a bottled water because of the need and the convenience. That is NEVER going to happen with MP3s. If studios are offering both options, you'll never not have access to your free MP3 website and have to go swing by iTunes instead to purchase a song you need right now. Because if you have internet access at all you have access to the WHOLE internet.

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TheGreg wrote:

It's not me that's 'removing value'. Markets establish value. If the thing is available for free, it's value will be affected by that. Something that is rare and desirable will have value because of that. Something that can be duplicated for free will not have any scarcity value. That's economics 101. Bizarrely, companies manage to sell bottled drinking water, despite drinking water being available free almost everywhere. Apple manages to sell MP3s, despite them being available free. It is possible make money in an environment without scarcity, but you do have to add value, you can't just declare it.

MP3s aren't available for free LEGALLY, though. Most people don't like to break the law. You can say torrenting something isn't stealing because you're not taking it away from anybody, or you would never have paid for it anyway, but it's a form of stealing. And there ARE laws against this particular variety, even if they aren't strictly enforced. That's a big part of the reason why places like Apple can still sell MP3s.

If every MP3 that you could buy on iTunes was conveniently available for free somewhere else on the internet, I'm sure you'd be seeing a much different story.

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TheGreg wrote:
C-Spin wrote:
TheGreg wrote:

The claim that every copy is a lost sale is a slightly weaker version of this fallacy, and makes the case that everyone who makes a copy of something would have paid for it had they not had the ability to make a copy, but the problem is that this is quite obviously false. The number of people who would watch something for $15 is a lot smaller than the number of people who would watch it for free. Clearly as you increase the price, the number of people interested drops off. Plainly every copy made is not the removal of some notional purchase.

It's true that every pirated copy is not necessarily a lost sale. Somebody may torrent Transformers 3 and watch it for free, but they would never pay to watch it. I'm with you there.

But why would somebody willingly put their product in a position where people could do that more easily? It takes time, effort, and money to make a movie, and you make that investment in the hope that the movie will turn a profit and you will be compensated. So you make a distribution deal, and people have to pay if they want to see your movie. That's a fair system. Why should a company willingly indulge the people who want to see it for free, who don't care enough to pay? There's no benefit to them. With digital copies it may not be a physical object you're selling, but it's still a product and it still has value. The system you outline doesn't make any sense.

Why? Because if they make it more difficult for someone to watch it by paying, and if the version that someone gets by paying is inferior (with can't-skip sections, for example) they are crippling their business model. That's why Apple stopped selling drm music - people can download it free, but if the paid service is as good (or even better) and not crippled, then (some) people will pay.

DRM is a different matter entirely. If I've paid for something, then i feel I'm entitled to do what I want with that file, whether that's burning a back-up DVD or putting it on a portable player or whatever. Restricting that stuff is absolutely poor practice, in my mind. But that's not what you were talking about before, you were talking about a company willingly putting their project up for free, and letting people donate if they want to. That system doesn't make sense for anybody whose goal is to make money. And film is a business just as much as it is an art form.

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TheGreg wrote:

The claim that every copy is a lost sale is a slightly weaker version of this fallacy, and makes the case that everyone who makes a copy of something would have paid for it had they not had the ability to make a copy, but the problem is that this is quite obviously false. The number of people who would watch something for $15 is a lot smaller than the number of people who would watch it for free. Clearly as you increase the price, the number of people interested drops off. Plainly every copy made is not the removal of some notional purchase.

It's true that every pirated copy is not necessarily a lost sale. Somebody may torrent Transformers 3 and watch it for free, but they would never pay to watch it. I'm with you there.

But why would somebody willingly put their product in a position where people could do that more easily? It takes time, effort, and money to make a movie, and you make that investment in the hope that the movie will turn a profit and you will be compensated. So you make a distribution deal, and people have to pay if they want to see your movie. That's a fair system. Why should a company willingly indulge the people who want to see it for free, who don't care enough to pay? There's no benefit to them. With digital copies it may not be a physical object you're selling, but it's still a product and it still has value. The system you outline doesn't make any sense.

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I guess The Hollywood Reporter sat down and interviewed Quentin Tarantino, David Russel, Ben Affleck, Ang Lee, Tom Hooper, and Gus Van Sant in a roundtable about directing.  I haven't finished watching the whole thing, so I can't REALLY speak to the quality, but it's fairly interesting so far. Too early to tell if it for sure qualifies as cool, but it might.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/video/ … iew-394778

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I never understood why World is Not Enough gets pretty unanimously shit upon. I thought it was quite a solid Bond film. Weaker than the previous two, but better  than probably all of Roger Moore's output, and at least You Only Live Twice and Diamonds Are Forever from Connery. That puts it in the top fifty percent. It's fun, the action is good, the Bond girls are gorgeous, Brosnan has really settled into the part, the plot is fairly unique, actually... What else are we looking for?

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Dorkman wrote:

So here in America we do this thing where we set aside a day to pretend we're not slavering consumers always wanting more MORE MORE. It lasts exactly one day before we immediately turn every retail outlet into Thunderdome trying to snag up shit we don't need because it's on sale.

This year it doesn't even last one day. Some places were having pre-Black Friday Thanksgiving sales...

I have to parrot the love for the show. I sometimes forget what a big deal it is, because it feels like it's always been there. It's only been three years and I already take it for granted that there will be a new episode every week and that that episode will be entertaining. It's the only podcast I listen to, and that's because it's the only one I've sampled that consistently left me amused and educated.

And this is easily the best forum I've ever been a part of. I don't post all that much, but that's just how I've always been with forums. I love coming here and reading the conversations that are going on. There's nowhere else like this.

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http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/11/20/ … f81000001f

That's the most exciting news for me so far. Michael Arndt's good and all, but come on...

So, I have crazy amounts of love for Michael Sheen. In fact, he's the sole reason I checked out that OTHER sexy vampire franchise. Is there enough Sheen in the Twilight series to get me through them? I've got a morbid curiosity now that the whole thing is over.

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Zarban wrote:
avatar wrote:

So you're on a hot date, things are going well, she brings you back to her place, but then you see 'x' in her Blu-Ray collection. You immediately gather your things and take your leave. What's your deal-breaker?

Child pornography.

That's not fair. What if she'd been molested as a child and was just trying to make sense of it all?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/images/bank/programmes_tv/ent/300_thickofit.jpg

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It feels backwards that I'm being judged by a bronie...

Edit - brony? I've only ever seen it pluralized... Is it like ponies?