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But think of how great it would have been if it HADN"T been faithful to the book smile

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Finally managed to actually watch this yesterday. Most of my fears, which revolved around the changed background involving Nazis, were unfounded. I doubt I'll watch it again, though smile

What I find interesting about adaptations like this is trying to figure out WHY various changes were made. Deconstruct the chain of script meetings. Some things, obviously, were changed just because (like turning a black market smuggler into a gay talk show host). However, you guys talked about the new plot involving the detectives and the virus. Why was it needed? My theory: In the book, the main detective goes on a personal quest to find and stop V. This in the end involves finding out his history, and realizing he will have to think like V in order to catch him. Thus he goes to the concentration camp ruins, takes some LSD, and goes on a bad trip that leads him to the same state of mental freedom as V and Evey. He then realizes naturally V is in the Victoria subway station and shoots and kills V.
So, imagine you're looking at this script. Obviously, you're not going to have the good cop kill V like a bitch. It has to be a bad ass fight scene. You also probably don't want to do the acid trip as by that point in the film the audience may be overloaded enough. So, the cop isn't going to the camp, and that gets rid of the need for his growing mental breakdown... and you end up with a character you need as a way to tell the V backstory but who no longer has anything to actually do.

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fcw wrote:

IMHO, the story breaks the Bean Wall

So THAT is what's around Beanworld!

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fcw wrote:
Zarban wrote:

My choice would probably be Die Hard. Such a great setup, fantastic hero, and one the greatest villains of all time very nearly ruined by the relentless, cartoonish idiocy of the police. I'd have McClane unable to raise the alarm for longer, then have the cops act sensibly but be stymied by Gruber's brilliant planning and ability to improvise.

Oh, god, yes. The cops in that movie are entirely cretinous, with the apparent exception of one donut connoisseur.

In the original script the cops and FBI are played straight, iirc.

Landporpus wrote:

Isn't Gareth Edwards working on some sort of Godzilla reboot?

The Japanese have retired the character for the near future having run the franchise into the ground, so a new American version would make sense from their point of view (the first one did great box office in Japan, and spoiled non-fanboy audiences budget wise making it harder for them to accept the later domestic movies)

While I could also go with Last Airbender, I'll instead go with Cannibal the Musical. Give it a good sized budget and real actors smile

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V for Vendetta was in the $5 bin, but I seriously doubt you'll find something by Spielberg in there.

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Haven't seen the new War of the Worlds, so this will be interesting. It is one of those cases where I agree with massive changes to the book- the whole idea was to show how an alien invasion would be "now", so it makes sense to always update it to reflect modern conditions. Not that I wouldn't mind seeing a GOOD period adaptation.

(I'll give bonus points for every reference to the rock opera that gets worked into the commentary)

Jeffery Harrell wrote:

The most powerful space telescope ever takes the first pictures of a particularly interesting extrasolar planet. It's discovered that from a distance, that planet looks exactly like Earth: same size, same atmosphere, same continents, everything. A year later, as this revelation is still being processed and debated, another identical Earth is found around a completely different star.

They then discover they in fact ARE seeing the Earth. Aliens have put up mirrors so we can't see anything but our own reflection.

Biologists sequencing human DNA discover a set of base pairs that, when decoded, are found to be a serial number in base four. Every human being has a unique one.

I've always had this image of humans seeding life on Europa, and a million years from now the civilization that develops thinks the whole idea of Intelligent Design is silly ("Us, created? Bah!")

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They can take their name off of it in protest. It's not much, I agree, but it would be nice if an author could take the books title away from a film (I think Stephen King managed to get his name off of the Children of the Corn and Lawnmower Man sequels, but the titles kept being used)

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Documentaries work best the less you yourself know about the subject: if they can provide all the context you have then you tend to accept their facts and conclusions. Even the best will gloss over things or leave out some detail that you might think was the entire point. Hmm, I'm going to have to see if I can track down The Panama Deception to see if its take on Bush 1's invasion of Panama holds up 20 years later.

F for Fake would be an interesting one for you guys to do.

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Give you a cushion and feed you grapes. Don't settle for anything less.

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I don't have the movie yet so have only listened to the introduction (I may break down and listen without the movie), but the argument Trey has advocated that we have to judge a movie on its own merits without regard for its relationship to the source material is one I both agree with and despise smile Obviously creators have bastardized existing stories to create their own for thousands of years, often yes improving them. On the other hand, I really wish authors had the same rights as directors and screen writers to take some action if the final result is too far from what they intended. Say, for example, making the studio change the name of the movie if it no longer resembles the book (Hollywood use to do this on its own much of the time anyway, if a book title wasn't catchy enough). Wouldn't affect things like this movie given Moore's attitude, but it would have allowed me to enjoy Starship Troopers more if it was just called Bug Hunt...

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redxavier wrote:

By any reasonable standard? Sorry, that's extremely... short-sighted. It undermines the scale of good and bad when you declare a film like Riddick to be a bad movie. There are many, much more genuinely bad movies out there. Let's not dilute the meaning and power of these words by flinging them about so thoughtlessly. What the hell happened to average and all those other words we use to describe things that aren't at either end of the scale?

There is a level of badness that is set aside for films that are well made by good actors and directors with high budgets that just fail. Maybe we should come up with some other term for them to make you happy smile

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We can stop having Teague wear the dress then? Good.

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It is interesting when an adaptation is the complete opposite of the original intent. Starship Troopers does that, and so does the musical Annie believe it or not. The creator of the comic was a hard core Republican who so hated FDR he killed off Daddy Warbucks because he believed capitalism was now dead in America, only to bring him back after FDR's death as a great evil had left the world. So, what does the musical do? It has a happy singing FDR and praises the New Deal. I don't think the creator was even a decade in the grave yet...

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Once again you guys are getting me to watch a film I've avoided. I assume at least some of you are more familiar with this comic then you were with Flaming Carrot smile

(I don't know if even you guys doing a commentary would get me to sit down and watch From Hell. Just the idea of what they did to it makes me never want to see a frame of it)

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You could always forget the movie and do a straight commentary on their commentary smile
"OK, pause your copy of the DIF commentary for Dark City after Teague says '...and the Amazing Trey Stokes' and turn the volume down to low. When I give the signal, hit unpause and it'll be like listening to 8 voices in your head."

Probably not the best title, but let me explain.

There's a thread in a USENET group about the Michael Mann film THE KEEP. I had the book it was adapted from as a kid, given to me as part of the truckload my older cousin passed on to me over the years. The film itself has kind of vanished, not having a DVD release. Anyway, someone mentioned having recently seen a copy and that you could clearly see where it had been cut down by the studio from Mann's 3 hour cut. In other words, instead of one scene flowing into the next it's obvious exactly where parts were ripped out even if you went in not knowing such a thing had happened.

I'm curious about other examples where you've noticed this, where either the editor didn't bother/have time to repair this kind of thing before the release date or they just did a bad job. I can think of two examples, although the second is very obscure smile In the animated version of THE HOBBIT, the jump into Bilbo waking up in the spider web has always seemed very abrupt. The audio seems to assume we're entering it from a different scene then the one we just saw, making me think a scene was dropped due to time/budget but they never re-recorded the audio. The other is a butchered dub of the anime Farewell to Yamato. Now, bad edited anime dubs are nothing new, but this one is damned curious. For one thing, it's unclear when it was made or who did it. What interested me though was that the dub was clearly done before they cut 30+ minutes out. Characters will say they're leaving to do something, then we skip to a later scene leaving the viewer hanging. Change one line of dialog and no new viewer would ever notice something was missing, but no, that would have required work...

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Finally got around to watching... well, half the movie smile It really didn't need the Blade Runner setting, given the comic just took place in a typical small American city. Trey, you might be interested to know that there's a Flaming Carrot/Reid Fleming Worlds Greatest Milkman crossover comic that came out a couple years ago (guest staring the Girl from Ipanema). They've also started releasing hardcover collections of the Reid Fleming comics, so pick up yours today!
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UHF would be nice. Found out the other day Al is coming to town next month, so it'll be my first chance to see him. Been a fan since his first album came out.

Grave of the Fireflies is all the more heartbreaking when you learn it's autobiographical, and the writer killed his animated avatar as he has never forgiven himself for surviving when his little sister didn't.

As for the movie that changed everything....

Airplane.

I was around 10 when it came out, and my sister 8. We saw the ads on TV, and asked Mom to take us. It being the days before the internet and really there being no information about movies unless you heard it from a friend, she assumed it would just be a PG comedy with maybe the over our head innuendo of Young Frankenstein (which our parents had taken us to see the re-release of at the drive in paired with Silver Streak).

Instead we saw jiggling breasts, shit thrown at fans, and the funniest movie we had ever seen. Mom was shell shocked as we left, only able to mumble, "You know you can't say some of those words, right?" From then on she just dropped us off at the movies smile

Well, this was first proposed at the same time the animated Clone Wars series was (with the idea being they'd film the entire run and THEN find a home for the finished series). Lucas may be looking at the success of that and now having second thoughts about doing the live action thing at all given cost differences.

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Depends on the purpose smile I hoped from your first post it would be more of an actual comic as you can do a lot when you're not limited by what was actually shot, but this technique is rather common. It's a way for someone who can't draw to do a comic, and as a non-artist I do sympathize.

Having seen the making of stuff from Avatar, I'm sure a lot of the stuff Cameron funded the development of will be the basis of what Lucas wants. He's just willing to wait until the price is right.

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maul2 wrote:

Holy crap...they've done all of them??!

When first coming upon a web comic a good thing to do is click on the 'latest comic' link or go to the homepage just to see if it's still in production. This one put up a new comic today smile

I'm turned off by the use of screen captures instead of artwork, so while I'm sure the script is great I'll pass for now. Besides, I have 4 years of back Penny and Aggie comics to get through to catch up to the new stuff...

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Doctor Submarine wrote:

A DVD would be an interesting idea, but are people really going to go for it when they can just download those episodes in higher quality for free?

Is the video for the recordings online now? If not, then this would be something you can't get elsewhere. If they are, then this is basically giving you something in exchange for a donation (and saving you download time). Will people buy something they can get for free? That's the whole business model of web comics and, to be honest, music.