Well, obviously comedy is subjective.

Eddie wrote:

Like Paul gets real skittish about Taxonomy of film, I get very aggravated about Taxonomy of film reviews (for some weird reason, and I get that it's weird).  All I know is that I appreciate this BECAUSE of the immersive connection, the deep dive into the film.  I can't say I see the same with CinemaSins and the ilk.

Jeez, can we please, please leave CinemaSins out of this? Can we please stop finding fault with them for not meeting a high standard as movie reviewers when they aren't movie reviewers? They're not even in the same ball park, largely because they're not even trying to be. They're playing a different game, yo. Leave it alone.

If that's not possible, can we at least concede that there are a wealth of other people out there doing (actual) movie reviews who (actually) are terrible, and that, for the purposes of moving this discussion forward, they might be a better target? Continuing to go back-and-forth debating the point in this thread as well seems like a massive waste of time to me.

Doctor Submarine wrote:

I completely disagree. You're creating a distinction where I don't think there necessarily is one. Plenty of film critics (I'd argue the majority of them) engage in film analysis.

No film critic regularly writes the kind of things the WAYDM panel says. You can't really analyze a film when you're worried about giving away the plot. Their review may say there are problems in the third act, but they can't go much further than that.

Just look at the way this forum wrote about "that scene" in Gravity. You can't say much about why it doesn't work and the degree to which it weakens the film and why without giving away a major twist.

I don't get your definitions of "film criticism" and "film reviewing". Virtually no one does analysis without recommendation or recommendation without analysis. Telling you whether a movie is worth watching or not is every film critic's job. Any other musing they do is a sideline.

I just don't get it. #confused #wtf #popularhashtagsopeoplewillseewhatisay #swag

I have no comment, except that Twitter as a thing needs to fucking die. It's like there's some group of people in a room, and they keep coming up with worse and worse ideas for social networking / social media bullshit, and people keep falling in love with them until the next thing they come up with , which is an even worse idea, but people still fucking love it.

Myspace sucked balls, Facebook sucks balls, G+ sucks balls, Twitter sucks balls. Is the goal to make things as impenetrable and disorganized as possible? Because, holy fucknuggets, they've won.

Clue, from what I remember of it, is cute. You can definitely feel it's low budgety-ness, and you definitely shouldn't try to take it seriously. It's one of those movies that's remembered for being sort of weird and off the wall, and because "How da f- do you make a movie out of a board game??", that it just sort of got a reputation as being one of "those" movies.

But highly regarded...not so much.