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HER is a slight favorite to win Best Original Screenplay at 5/6. AMERICAN HUSTLE is 6/4.

I think Jonze wrote the best screenplay not only of the year but of the damn decade. He won the Golden Globe, but the Hollywood Foreign Press is not the same group of people as the Academy. They might just crown David O. Russell rather than give HER its due. (The median age of an Academy voter is 62. Only 14% of voters are people under the age of 50. Thus it won't be surprising if a film that makes the analog 70s look glamorous goes over better than a film about a digitized future.)

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Even if GRAVITY or (God forbid) AMERICAN HUSTLE pulls an upset and wins Best Picture, Mr. Ridley seems like a pretty big lock to win for Best Adapted Screenplay (He's 1/6 right now. His closest competition is being given 9-to-1.) Also the awesome Lupita Nyong'o is now the favorite to win Best Supp Actress (she was not before).

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Rob wrote:

Re: Las Vegas odds --

12 YEARS is currently a prohibitive favorite in the BP race at around 1/5. AM HUSTLE is at 7/2. GRAVITY is at 12/1. HER is at 125/1.

Best Actor looks funny to me. Ejiofor is more or less even-money, but they're betting 11/8 against Mr. McConaughey, which seems like a little too much weight to be giving up when the guy just won the Golden Globe and is sort of having his moment right now. They've fixed Bale at at 66/1, Bruce Dern at 25/1, and Di Caprio at 10/1. All of which seems pretty steep for what's clearly shaping up to be one of the more competitive categories.

Odds update for anyone who cares:

The Best Picture race has held steady at the top -- 12YAS is 1/4 and GRAVITY is at 9/2. HER is a 300-to-1 underdog. sad

Best Actor -- Ejiofor dropped like a rock in the weeks after the nominations. He went from being the even-money betting favorite to third place, getting booked at 12/1. Leo's in second place at 5/1. McConaughey is now 2/9.

Roger Deakins is a 74/1 longshot, but there's been murmurings that he's garnered more votes than some might expect. Lubezki's still the 1/33 favorite.

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Even if I hadn't watched the trailer, the fact that it's a Godzilla movie is a kind of a big tip-off that there's probably going to be some cities being destroyed.

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Tomahawk wrote:


Wow, this looks like it might actually be a good Godzilla movie.

Just watched this. It looks pretty badass. I'm optimistic.

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Welp, there goes any work productivity I may have had this week...

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Now we're getting somewhere.

I'm thinking Claire Danes and Laura Prepon. Tyne Daly can have a cameo as the lieutenant who asks for Lacey's badge & gun when she gets too close to a case. I think we got a pilot. *Opens Final Draft*

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I don't think what we're talking about is hidden within the subtle narrative of the show. The reason so many people are focusing on it is because it's all happening right there on the surface of the action. Twisted men who harm women and children (in a variety of ways) is, in a sense, what the story has been about so far. This isn't an embedded narrative that springs to the fore upon deep analysis of signs and symbols. It's the main narrative. It's what been happening on screen this whole time.

It reminds me of how "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo"'s original Swedish title was "Men who Hate Women." I heard that for the first time and I went, "Oh yeah, that IS kind of what it's about, isn't it?" You realize that's not something buried deep within the complex layers of the text -- it's the text.

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The think pieces along these lines really are getting out of control. (I had to shut down my Google Alert.) There's definitely a fair bit of redundancy and point-missing going on. "Lazy" is the right word for many of these pieces.

What drives it, in part, is that articles about TD are timely. Most of these people are on short deadlines. They need to produce so many pieces per-week, and those pieces need to get clicks, and it's always going to be easier to tear into a show like TD by taking this tack than it is to grab a ladder and go after more higher-hanging fruit. Episode postmortems start getting posted minutes after the end credits roll. They literally don't have the time, nor the ability in some cases, to engage the show along the more non-ideological, aesthetic lines Ewing describes. Ideology is always easier because they know the "correct" answers and, at this point, you don't even have to watch the show very carefully to note its male-centrism. Even a cookie-cutter, poorly reasoned piece taking the show to task for sexism will get tons of retweets. The show is trending, and the websites know it. It's their bread and butter.

What's particularly irksome is that, in this case, I actually believe in the ideology. I believe that women on TV and film are too often depicted in these ways, that there aren't enough meaty roles for women, and I recognize that the show is profoundly male-centric (but I tend to disagree about why the show is that and what it means). The "depiction is not necessarily endorsement" idea is something many of these pieces will in the first paragraph claim to accept as true, but then the next 1100 words will make clear that the writer actually doesn't believe that. That's annoying. Especially given that TD does seem to be doing it on purpose (which is to say, for a purpose) as Doc suggests.

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It was a total setup episode, yeah. The two narrative goals of it seemed to be to 1) reveal what exactly led to Marty & Rust's falling out (premature ejaculation, apparently) and 2) get Rust and Marty on their way to have that beer in the 2012 timeline that way they can be duo again for the last two episodes. Most everything else was stuff we already knew or didn't absolutely need to see play out (Marty beating up the boys who were in the car with his daughter, Marty's a philanderer, the clergymen we've met previously have something to hide).

It's cool how Rust is arguably a better person than Marty, and a better cop, but Rust is ever the outsider and Marty is the accepted, company man. When Rust has bent the rules, it's mostly been because he's going rogue trying to catch a bad guy. His intentions are defensible, even as his methods are alarming. But when Marty bends the rules, he's usually busting into his mistress' apartment and beating up some dude who's there, or he's putting on gloves and beating the shit out of those two boys right there in the jailhouse. Those were personal scores he was settling, nothing to do with police work. Later Rust gets suspended for "mis-allocation of  department resources" or some such nonsense. All Rust did was speak to someone. Marty beat up prisoners right there in the jail and got away with it. Somewhere in there is a point about how this crazy mixed-up world rewards the bad and ostracizes the virtuous -- or something. Cohle could phrase it better.

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That Twinkie bit, the Do-Ray-Egon thing-- I can't calculate how many times I must have repeated that shit from 1985-89. It's in the thousands. Ramis and Ghostbusters was a major part of my pathetic, yet-to-have-gotten-laid life.

Sixty-nine is damn young. He was funny right up until the end, too. Acting in films with Seth Rogen and shit.

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GRAND PIANO is pretty cool. Scott Weinberg called it "PHONE BOOTH in a concert hall--except it's quite a bit better than that." If I heard the elevator speech for this film, I'd say "Not gonna work." But they made it work.


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There's a lot you can pick on here, but overall it worked for me despite the clunkiness. I wasn't sure whether the VFX were good or a little off, which leads me to suspect that maybe there was something a little off (?). I enjoyed this. I have a blast with most Paul W.S. Anderson films.


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More like Winter's Stale! This godawful film was written and directed by the guy who wrote A BEAUTIFUL MIND, BATMAN & ROBIN, and THE DA VINCI CODE. It's the first film I've seen in a while that's so aggressively bad that I actually sat there in a state of disbelief. Apparently it's based on a book. I haven't read the book, but somehow I'm able to tell you with absolute certainty that the book is better. If you explained magical realism to someone on peyote, then told him to remember that "love conquers all," then asked him to tell you a story--he would tell this movie's story, except he'd do a better job telling it and wouldn't force Russell Crowe on you.

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When Marty looked at Audrey's drawings he gave them a cursory glance and tossed the notebook aside. His wife even comments that he doesn't take much time looking at them. He'll probably return to those images at some point and see something he didn't catch before.

Marty's daughter... how she figures into all this, that's got me stumpted.

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If they can go supernatural with this story and make me dig it, that would be a remarkable achievement. So far I've been so impressed with the directions they've gone that I'm not even dubious about it. Normally I would be.

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It seems like the whole China/Raymond Tusk/Energy Crisis/Who's Funding the Republicans thing just didn't land for viewers. I did a lot of rewinding trying to catch exactly what the problem was a lot of times.

Yeah I don't agree at all. This will leave me open to charges of pretentiousness, and that's fine. I'll take that bullet because this is how I genuinely feel.

Helping someone decide whether or not to see a movie -- in other words, helping someone decide what to do with their dollar -- is not, to my mind, the function of real criticism. (And yes, I'm using the word "real" in this context. Fire away.) That is, in fact, a useful byproduct of good art criticism, not the point of art criticism. If that were the point of criticism, then any review longer than the words "yea" or "nay" would be unnecessary. The best criticism, the criticism you like to read and appreciate the most, assesses the work and offers insight into it. Put it this way: there's something Jonathan Rosenbaum wrote once (and Ebert said something like this at one point too), which goes something like "Criticism is not Consumer Reports." This is precisely my view on the role of the critic. It's not the same as telling someone which toaster oven to buy or which smartphone is the best bargain. Again, helping someone decide whether they should spend money on a film is a useful byproduct, but no true Scotsma -- uh I mean no critic who is worth reading approaches his or her work with the attitude that "My primary role here is to help people decide what to spend money on." Movies are art. Toaster ovens are toaster ovens.

EDIT: And just to be clear: I didn't argue that critics should sling spoilers with reckless abandon. In fact, I think I mentioned that very few critics relish or get off on going out of their way to spoil a film for readers. My view is simply that the critic, in her role as critic, should feel no special obligation to tiptoe around a particular aspect of a film if that critic feels strongly compelled to analyze that aspect of the film. And in fact, many critics are very good about somehow flagging major spoilers, so there's a self-policing system in place that basically works but for an occasional aberration here and there (Armond, David Denby often spoils films in his reviews, but they're in the minority).

I should have mentioned this because it's funny. This person I know got agitated with me. He asked me how GRAVITY was. I said it was good, unforgettable. He said "Oh really?" I said yeah. Pause. So I started to explain, very generally, why I feel that way. He got mad when I revealed the film's running time. "Man, why'd you have to say how long it is?!"

That's part of what I find so curious. Based on what most people seem to regard as a spoiler, goddamn trailers spoil movies left and right, sometimes in really big ways. It's rare that I hear folks complaining that about a trailer giving away too much. People just kind of accept trailers as they are.

I'm much more clear about what I think is not a spoiler than what is. Describing the premise of a movie, or sketching out the broad strokes of its plot, is not a spoiler. If it is, then the biggest offenders are trailers, not reviewers or casual discussants. To me, a true spoiler must undercut a significant effect that a movie is trying at have with its story. The word "significant" is important because, again, there's all kinds of setups and minor plot points that trailers give away freely. So take a movie like PSYCHO (which I'll now spoil):

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I don't regard it as a spoiler to say "The main character, Marion, absconds with her boss' money" -- even though there's a bit of suspense Hitchcock wrings out of the "will she, or won't she" of that decision. Technically, revealing that undercuts the will she or won't she effect. But it's a relatively minor effect, which is really more of a setup for the rest of the story. Revealing that is different from telling someone about the film's big reveal that Mother is Norman. Doing so undercuts the entire effect of surprise that the film is going for. The whole point of the film, in a sense, IS that one effect. (There were lobby standees of Hitch urging people to be on time and to not spoil that plot point for others.) Thus the film is literally less effective if someone's been given the answer to the central mystery ahead of time. But if you know ahead of time that a character named Marion steals some money and takes off, the film is no less effective. IOW, your experience of enjoying the film has not been significantly harmed just because you knew that setup. This is generally the distinction I make.

I find I don't care about spoilers as much as most people do, from what I can detect. The only times I'm truly upset when a movie's been spoiled for me is when there is some kind of central mystery or puzzle to be figured out, as in PSYCHO, THE SIXTH SENSE, or THE PRESTIGE. But if it's just someone going "They get away at the end" or "Darth Maul dies" or "Cameron Diaz gets semen in her hair," I'm rarely bothered by it.

I actually don't think critics should feel any responsibility to avoid spoilers. Which is to say, I don't think the onus is on the writer but on the reader. The reviewer's job is to assess the work. A reasonable, rational human being realizes that assessing the work requires discussing the work. So long as a movie review is clearly labeled as "Movie Review," reasonable people know that what lies ahead is a discussion of what's in that movie. But if someone is super-sensitive to spoilers of any kind, that person should probably try to avoid reviews rather than bitch out a critic for analyzing a particular aspect of a film in a review. That's critics. Casual conversations, online and elsewhere, is another matter. There, journalistic/writerly integrity is a non-issue, but good manners is. It's widely held that it is polite to flag if not altogether avoid major spoilers when discussing a film. Frequently I forget, but I try. But yeah, I make a huge distinction between critics producing works of criticism and people conversing casually -- one is about the nature of criticism, the other about good manners.

There should be no statute of limitations. There's always someone who hasn't seen JAWS. (I think "No, Luke. I am your father" might indeed be the one and only exception. Little kids who've never seen EMPIRE or any of the OT films know that Vader is Luke's dad. I think they tell kids that when they get vaccinated.)

Jimmy B wrote:

Nah, we released it back in October.

Really? How did I miss that? My brain is spoiled.

Jimmy B wrote:

Extended Edition did an episode on Spoilers.

Just sayin' big_smile

Jimmy you just spoiled the fact that an upcoming episode is about spoilers!

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I found this unremarkable when it came out. I just saw it again on VOD and liked it a lot better from my couch. Blanchett and Sally Hawkins are great together. The story is kept simple in a very un-Hollywood way that either works or falls on its face. There's something like a critique of American materialistic attitudes and class divisions, but it's a shallow critique: the movie's real theme is "Cate Blanchett can act." Her best scenes are shot in such a way as to ask implicitly "Is she sensational, or what?" We knew that. Still, I enjoyed it quite a bit. Not as much humor as you'd expect, either.

Here's something I always find interesting: the way different people think about spoilers.

So in the form of a questionnaire:

How do you define "spoiler"?

How much do you care about spoilers?

What responsibility do people who review/discuss movies have to flag or avoid spoilers?

What responsibility do people who care about spoilers a lot have to avoid reading/watching things that might contain spoilers?

Do you feel there's a "statute of limitations" on spoilers and/or situations in which something is such common knowledge that vigilance about spoilers becomes moot (the paternity of Luke Skywalker, at this point, is not just well-known but part of the culture)?

I feel like people everywhere use the term "spoiler," but it's often clear that what, precisely, people understand that to mean varies.

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This might be a good Intermission topic for the boys.

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They got rid of Christina is a relatively careful way. It's never perfectly smooth when you're deliberately trying to write someone out. They telegraphed it and primed the audience for it ahead of time. She didn't just summarily disappear. Her visibility was diminished from the beginning of the season, and her ouster was part of Claire's effort to drive a wedge into the POTUS' and first lady's marriage, a chaos ploy. So it doesn't exactly come out of nowhere in that line of dialogue. We see it coming a mile away. Just like the POTUS' chief of staff being dismissed.

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Well, here's the pith of my disappointment:

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My big headline is the huge dropoff in watchability between S1 and S2. S1 was compulsively watchable. The supporting characters were interesting. Russo, Zoe, Christina. They all got replaced by less interesting characters played by less skilled actors (the POTUS, the congresswoman who replaces Francis as Whip).

In S1 these side characters interacted with Francis and Claire in ways that smoothed over the fact that Francis is a Bond villain-type character. He has no internal conflict, no conflicted feelings, no real demons but for his thirst for power--which is an asset more than a demon in his line of work. I get that he's styled as a Shakespearean power-hungry leader (complete with the whole thinking out loud to the audience thing), but there's no complexity there. Like he says himself, "Dogs are so predictable." Indeed.

The rub is that this makes it rather unremarkable when he does something atrocious. He pushes a woman in front of an oncoming train, and we think "Yeah. That's what he does." And he has the same thought. Yeah. That's what I do. Sociopaths are not interesting as characters for this reason. There's no moral calculus whatsoever, just twisted software running on a sick brain. This is why good movies about serial killers tend to be about the people trying to catch/get away from the killer, not the serial killer.

For all the top-notch acting, directing, and lighting, HOC is a soap opera. This is obvious, but I think S2 makes clear (to me anyway) that it wants to be regarded as such. Sure, its pretensions are to be a "serious" drama that's about real shit--the pragmatic horsetrading and skulduggery that is Washington. But it's main aim is as cynical as Francis' power seeking: it wants to keep us watching, to keep us smacking our lips at Francis' delicious quips, gasping at the threesomes and lesbian sleepovers and other such intrigues. Soap opera. HOC no more wants to comment on the ugliness of beltway politics than General Hospital wants to be an expose on our broken healthcare system.

And I'm fine with that. I'm fine with soaps. It's when soaps strut their stuff as if they're Shakespeare that will make me roll my eyes and, hopefully, will drive people right into the arms of Orange is the New Black (a better show).