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The movie IS about something, just not the monster. If you weren't interested or invested in what it was about, that's fine and even understandable. But as the panelists discussed in the commentary, it was very much a response to the events of 9/11, as JJ Abrams seems determined to do in everything he does, forever. Rob was faced with devastating destruction and even after his Brother died, he rose to the occasion to become that civilian who ran into a crumbling building to save someone he could have easily left behind.

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In November of 2007, I moved from my Sister's house out in the country to Downtown, Forth Worth, Texas. I had never lived in a big city before that point. It was always either the suburbs, a trailer park in the middle of nowhere or an apartment complex near a college campus of some kind. In this downtown area, I resided on the sixth floor (I think the top floor was the seventh) of an apartment building with concrete walls and linoleum floors.

On the release day of Cloverfield, in January, I took the elevator down to the lobby and walked three blocks (may have been more, but it still wasn't far) down the street to the AMC Palace 9. It was a cool, overcast Friday, early afternoon. I sat in the theater with my snacks and not very many people and was mesmerized for 90 minutes by this intense, creative American monster movie I had been anticipating since I saw the trailer online, back in the Summertime.

When I came out of the theater, walking home was a surreal, tingling experience. I kept looking up at the towering skyscrapers, waiting for that lumbering creature to make an appearance. I know that's silly but I couldn't help it. The movie had worked its magic on me. It was one of the more effective Horror films I had seen in a long time. It got under my skin and stayed with me.

Teague's theory, of simply putting characters in peril to garner sympathy without having to know them, is interesting and probably works for a number of other movies but is debunked here by the fact that most (if not all) of the panelists don't like or care about the characters, even after they are put in this terrible situation and one of them even loses a family member.

I do think Trey is on to something about trimming the party scene way down. I'll go even further with it and say we don't even need the stuff before it, with the footage of the couple being playful in bed, or Jason and his girlfriend getting items for the party. I think the film would be better to start the "recording" immediately on Rob entering the apartment and getting surprised at his friends and family having setup this going away party.

I never had an issue with Hud continuing to shoot the events of the film, even going back for the camera when he drops it, which ultimately results in his demise (Fun Fact: Leading up to the film's release, Hud had his own MySpace page, where his stats, such as his height were listed. After the film came out, his height was changed to read "3 feet", the monster having bitten him in half). I always thought of the camera as Hud's security blanket, a way for him to distance himself from everything he was seeing, thereby being able to cope with it better. It was as though looking upon these horrible things through a camera lens made them less real.

My issue has always been Hud, himself. "Douche bag" was indeed the wrong word. I believe Teague meant to say, "obnoxious". I know there are people like Hud who make light of everything to help deal with the severity of their situation. It's a survival instinct. However, I just couldn't get on board with Hud NEVER, eventually sobering up and taking things seriously. Even after Marlena died, he was still robbing every scene of its full tension by being overly wacky, in my opinion. I remember thinking, "Why did our surrogate have to be THIS GUY?" Having said all that, I absolutely love how after all of Marlena's constant snubbing of Hud trying to chat her up, she specifically turns to Hud for help when she's about to die and her last words are, "Hud? I don't feel so good."

Sure, Cloverfield could have been tighter, especially given its brisk running time to begin with. Sure, our heroes are kind of self-involved, rich kids with childish relationship issues but I kind of like that they're not the typical, "Man of Action" proactive stock. This is an indie drama with occasional interruptions from a terrifying, Monster Movie blockbuster. I think that's kind of neat and original. Having been a fan of Drew Goddard's work on Buffy and Angel for years beforehand, I knew that was his bread and butter. Those Whedon collaborators are all about approaching the mundane and melodramatic through a genre convention, making the whole thing unconventional.

Cloverfield is one of my favorite films but I don't watch it often because frankly, that monster's awkward design creeps me the hell out and I don't like looking at it (by the way, thanks to the Asshole on these forums who decided to use that monster's fucking face as their god damn avatar!). smile

Oh, and Lizzy Caplan gets first billing in the credits because they're going by last names, alphabetically.

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Just a couple quick notes:

@Dorkman Kevin Smith was a Producer on Good Will Hunting.

@Trey The caper movie with Ed Burns you were thinking of is called Confidence. And yes, it is indeed pretty fun. Coincidentally, it also stars both Leland Orser and Paul Giamatti.

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"I can hear John Pavlich and Zarban yelling, 'Oh my God, please talk about the classic film you're watching!'" -Teague

Yeah, well, somebody has to keep you crazy kids in line! I swear, your show would be a complete mess without us! smile

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Jimmy B wrote:

Holy shit, we have a Pavlich! Where you been, man?

Sorry I've been absent from the boards. I love it here. Unfortunately, my Mother and I recently discovered she has Ovarian Cancer, so we've been dealing with that. They drained 7 liters of fluid from her and found a bunch of small growths in her abdomen and one big one that's 12 centimeters wide. She has to have a hysterectomy done to take care of the large mass, and then chemotherapy to handle the rest. She's currently going through the slow (could take up to 120 days) process of getting Disability and Medicaid. She was scheduled to go into surgery on the 19th, until the hospital called today wanting her to come up with $6,000 (out of $12,000) or she couldn't do it. Turns out, the Doctor was going to do the surgery FOR FREE, and it's the HOSPITAL that want all that money just to use the room (she'd be recovering for around 4 days). The Doctor referred her to another hospital (she's friends with the Oncologists there, so she's vouched for them), so we'll see what happens.

So, that's happened.

Anyway, Cloud Atlas. I've not seen the film. I'm very curious to check it out. I'm a big Tom Tykwer fan (even though I've not liked much of his stuff. The stuff I do like, I fucking love). I guess I feel basically the same way about The Wachowskis, too. I'm surprised that when Dorkman talked about his love for them, he failed to mention their first film, Bound. Also, Teague was asking about the score for Cloud Atlas. Tom Tykwer, Reinhold Heil and Johnny Klimek are the guys that make up Pale 3, who have composed the music for Run Lola Run, The Princess and The Warrior and more.

ETA: Sorry, Dorkman. Listening as I write. Glad to hear you guys DID talk about Bound. I dig that movie.

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"Who is us in the past?.... Pavlich!" -Teague

AH!

I love you guys. smile

FUN FACT: Tom Tykwer and I share the same birthday, May 23rd.

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I've only seen a few minutes of this movie. I had to turn away before my eyes and ears started bleeding. smile This is rare for me, but I'll be listening to this one without watching the movie alongside. Welcome back! smile

I see. Well then, tomorrow, we settle this like children! smile

Jimmy B wrote:

Also, has everyone in this forum been told they are going to die soon? Almost everyone is pissy and on edge these days. Bloody hell.

I don't know what you're talking about....Now please kindly fist yourself. Thanks. smile

The quote is from the Pan's Labyrinth commentary. You can also find it in one of Ryan's awesome year-in-review mixes.

FUN FACT: Throughout any and all incarnations of "Lassie", Timmy never once fell down a well from which he needed saving by his dog and some code breakers. smile

Oh, looks like Saniss tackled May while I was in the bathroom or something. Never mind then. smile

Teague wrote:

Anybody willing to do audio stuff have Audition? Preferably CS6?

I edit with Audition for all of my podcasts. I think it's like version 4 or something. Does the CS6 version have some features you need that mine doesn't have?

Also, since this is May and my birthday is also this month, I'll take May if it's available. However, I have no idea what you need/want me to do. I'm sure I can do it, I just need directions/instructions.

EDITED TO ADD: Never mind. I just saw the post with the template. Yeah, I'll take May if it's open.

Trey wrote:

We're also adding an adorable youngster to the cast: our cousin Oliver. 

You're going to love the crazy hijinks that little rascal gets up to!

Instead, how about you add Michelle Trachtenberg to the cast and everyone can carry on and act as if she's been here the whole time? #buffyseasonfive #hashtaggingoutsidetwitter

Teague, given all the photoshop and audio goodies I've done in relation to this podcast in the past, you should have already e-mailed me with assignments. Seriously, hit me up. I am so redacted. smile

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Squiggly_P wrote:

Any DiF videogame would need to be a multiplayer deathmatch game. Magic Bean guns and Fridge Logic bombs.

Teague's special move is he reaches into a bag, pulls out Tesla the cat and throws it at you. The counter attack to this is to save the cat.

Brian's special move is he blinds you with science. The counter attack to this is Spider-Man 2, for he can never understand it and its acclaim.

Dorkman's special move is he strikes an inappropriate, sexy Black Widow pose, making you uncomfortable until you forfeit. The counter attack to this is to charge at him with a giant hypodermic needle.

Trey's special move is to be muscular, aggressive and busy at you. The counter attack to this is THIIIIGHS! (a James Cameron mask is also acceptable).

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Joe wrote:

"The Vomit Draft"?

I already suggested this one. See my list on page 8 of this thread. smile

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Whatever name you guys decide to go with, I would be delighted to have the opportunity to submit potential logo designs, as I love doing stuff like that and I want to help out in any way that I can. smile

ETA: For example, if the show was called Fridge Logic, I'd create a brain popping out of a refrigerator laying on its back. Maybe the brain could be wearing a Fedora. Seeing as how the first commentary you guys ever did was for Indy 4, before you were even called Down In Front, this would be especially fitting.

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I'm just throwing these out there, off the top of my head as they come to me in succession:

The Nerdsmiths
Occam's Blazer
Going To The Mansion
Open Dialogue
The Sync Point
Roll Credits
Story Breakers
The System Purge
Nerds Of A Feather
Geek Sauce
Nerds Of Wisdom
Geek Salad
Popcornadoes
The Screen Berets
The Talking Couch
Nerder Convictions
Scruffy Nerd Herders
The Ventertainers
The Seat Warmers
The Projectionists
The Vomit Draft
The Perfect Movie Podcast
The Concession Stand
Geek Now Or Later
On Screen Dissection
Nerd Alert
Scene Stealers
Chewing The Screenery
Frame Raters
Scene and Nerd
Surround Sound Geekers
The Geeker Box

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He's allowed. We all are. smile

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For what it's worth, when I was around 12 or 13, my first girlfriend was the one who got me into comics. Mostly, we were big fans of The X-Men. In fact, she gave me the Milestone Issue of X-Men #1, with Cyclops and Wolverine on the cover. I still have it. Back then, I was all about Marvel and The X-Men. Today, I prefer Dark Horse and Buffy.

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Attention all people responsible for my love of film in some way: Please stop dying.

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Thanks so much, everyone. Sorry to bring the thread down in the dumps. Things are kind of hectic right now and I may be staying with my Sister for a bit, until I'm ready and able to resume my normal routines in life. I've added a "Donate" button to the Sofa Dogs podcast page (top right, in the sidebar), to help keep the site going. As Teague would say, "Not askin'. Just sayin'." http://www.sofadogs.libsyn.com

Back on topic: Personally, I've always hated this "holiday", although Teague's two YouTube vids made all that clicking worthwhile.

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Teague, my Stepfather passed away a week ago, and I've been massively depressed, tired and stressed out as of late, so thank you for making me smile.

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Marty J hyper-linked to this above, but I think it's worth embedding here out in the open, so more people will notice it and take a look.

Even after all the point-by-point explanations, I still don't much care for the movie for 2 big reasons:

1. I find much of the movie badly directed/acted. It's just so damn self-important and kind of melodramatic to the point of unintentional comedy.

2. Almost all of these "explanations" are the result of external research and homework outside of the film itself we're expected to do. To me, that's a massive failing of the movie. If the film can't stand on its own as a single story with all the necessary contexts contained within the running time, then that's bad storytelling. What you're left with is a paper with all of the math problems completed, and you expect me to go through the books and work out the equations for myself to see how you got there. Basically, I'm showing your work. Screw that!

Having said all that, I'm very interested in these statements at the beginning of the video: "Is Damon Lindelof just a bad writer who expects everyone to fill in the plot holes for him? No. The original writer was Jon Spaihts. Lindelof was brought in for rewrites, and Ridley Scott was involved from beginning to end with a specific vision in mind. People are only targeting Lindelof because they don't like Lost, which was one of the best TV Shows ever made. He knew the whole plot on that one, too. And just so you know, a Plot Hole is when something in the movie contradicts something else, not when something is left open."

I'd like to see these guys make one of these videos for Lost, specifically. I'm a fan of that show and would want to see them back up their statement.

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Cabin isn't revolutionary for doing what Scream did. What's revolutionary is how it did what it did. Yes, both movies are essentially saying the same things, but they're each going about it in vastly different ways. While Scream is a commentary on the Teen Slasher sub-genre, Cabin is more a commentary on the Horror genre overall and the people who crave it.

Zarban wrote:

Who was this movie aimed at? It wasn't funny enough to be a comedy. If it's a horror movie, it's one that hates horror movies. I wanted to love it (I liked Tucker and Dale vs Evil quite a lot), but it didn't give me much to hang on to. The film makers seemed to be fighting with themselves as to whether to follow the tropes or subvert them. The sequence that introduces the kids is a complete mess.

The movie is really well made, and I had some fun with it, but it seemed to indict a straw man for the most part (most horror movies don't have a cursed object, for example, and most horror movies trap the characters in a far more inventive way than blowing up a tunnel). The best part was Whitford and Jenkins' joyless reaction to the first kill.

And the ending... what the fuck? The reason you don't tell a story about the world ending is that the audience knows the world didn't end, so what the fuck point are you making by saying your characters made the world end?

Sigh.... I need to expose you to some more Horror movies, I think.

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Hey Teague, could you edit your main post here to include links to the sites and materials mentioned in the episode? I think it would be really helpful for folks to have all that info in one spot.