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Squiggly_P wrote:

If you think about it, the world he and his wife were in for "years" was supposedly at least a few levels in, right? And they were obviously still using their own familiar places at that time to construct their dream worlds. That's why he stopped doing that after his wife freaked out about it not feeling real. The problem with them experiencing years inside the dream is that when they 'died', they weren't shown waking up through several levels. Just one. Maybe it was meant to be implied, but if they spent years down there, what are the chances that they actually got all the way out? Maybe his wife actually did wake herself up.

The world they were in is just "limbo", or the collective unconscious. I believe that Cobb mentions or alludes that killing yourself in that world wakes you up to reality, so you skip other "levels" of which are different than limbo in that they are dream-states. This is why it's still safe for Cobb to go after Seito after saving Fischer while everybody else gets kicked back level by level (which is why Ariedne says "he'll be okay" to Arthur).

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Squiggly_P wrote:

I think it's pretty obvious that he's still in a dream, tho, considering the fact that his kids are still identical to the kids in his dreams, despite the fact that it's supposed to be several years later.

As I just mentioned, the kids are, in fact, older, as proven by the credits. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1375666/fullcredits#cast

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Saw the movie a second time tonight. I was worried because the first time, the tension in the second half of the movie (adore the multiple ticking clocks) was taking over most of my attention, but knowing what happened the second time I definitely got to focus more on the "rules" that Nolan sets and see how cohesive they are. Surprisingly, though I've heard people say there are "too many holes" I just didn't see that. The time issue that Mike mentions is definitely one, but like he said, it's not one that makes the movie less enjoyable at all.

I will say that on one end, I do think that Cobb does end up in reality at the end. There's too many points that favor that I think. First, the top definitely does wobble at the end right before the cut. It's CLEARLY wobbling. Everybody I've seen it with has said it without hesitation. The other thing I notice is that the children are older, and sure enough the credits actually show two girls and two boys ("Girl at 3 years" and "Boy at 20 months" and "Girl at 5 years" and "Boy at 3 years", or something like that). Everytime Cobb looks at them in his dream-state they are the same young age he remembers them at and are wearing the same clothes, but at the end they are older and are wearing different clothes. There's nothing in the rest of the movie that I could find that would have clued us to why that would be, other than him definitely being in reality.

HOWEVER....I just got done reading this article (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/What-If- … 19638.html) and I must say, it's REALLY intriguing!! I won't discuss what it is in detail, but the concept of the ENTIRE film being Cobb's dream-state and exploring Jungian archetypes is a very very interesting concept. Enough to not let me be 100% certain of my interpretation.