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I haven't watched any of the live shows before. Where do I watch the stream?
Does anybody have another link for the video Dorkman posted. The youtube account it was on is closed.
Interesting that someone pointed out how Edna might have created a suit for Syndrome if he had asked. I believe I heard somewhere that Edna Mode was going to be the villain at some point. And I think Syndrome was going to be the first villain rather than the main one. There is a deleted alternate opening on the DVD where he basically dies in the beginning (it's probably on youtube). It almost works as a prequel as Violet is a baby.
I don't know that Edna would have created a suit for Buddy though. He wasn't a Super and she had the whole "I designed for gods" thing. If she had been the villain, it would have been interesting if she was actually helping Buddy in order to bring the Supers back.
Just so you know, it's CHUNG Ling Soo, not CHING.
"Ching" Ling "Foo" was a real Chinese magician that feuded with Chung.
I just started to listen to the commentary so I don't know what all was said. But, I want to point out some misconceptions that I have heard about the story.
I read in one book about real life killer Ed Gein that he was the basis for Lecter. He was NOT the basis for Lecter but was one of the serial killers that was used to create Bill. Lecter is much more based on Ted Bundy (due to his intelligence and escape from jail) and cannibal serial killers like Albert Fish and Andrei Chikatilo.
Bill was mainly a combo of Bundy (the arm cast trick was one he used), Ed Gein (the female skin suit), and Gary Heidnik (kept sex slaves in a pit he dug in his basement).
Funny story: I had an odd first viewing of Silence. My brother tried to tell me the story but I confused what he said about Bill and Lecter. I thought they were the same guy and Lecter was breaking out to kill and then sneaking back into prison. I kept waiting for Lecter to be revealed as Buffalo Bill. I wondered why they were showing a different guy.
Deamon
Got those Bush quotes yet, or do you want to recant? Real evidence of the "Christianization" of the US Military would also be nice. You can't just make claims about the motives of the military without evidence.
"As for terrorists willing to kill civilians what are you talking about? when you drop bombs from 60000 feet people die. To get upset by a particular method is ridiculous. Some one trapped under three tons of fallen concrete versus some one dying on a street corner are not moral choices but weapon choices."
I'm talking about targeting civilians directly, hence "prime target", not as collateral damage. Hijacking a plane full of civilians and flying it into a civilian target etc. is very different than targeting military sites that happen to have civilians in the area.
"Whats seems to be happening in the US is something similar with the rise of fundamental religion, denial of scientific concepts such as stem cells or evolution. There plenty of evidence on the "Christianization" of the US armed forces over the last twenty years. So to claim their the only force motivated by crazy religions is false. Bush made many claims that god had told him to do various things such as start wars etc. as well. "
"Fundamental" Christianity is very different from Islam. No Christians that truly believe in the fundamentals of Christianity are going to wage "holy war". There is no such thing as holy war in Christianity. And Catholicism doesn't count as they go beyond the scriptures. Holy war and conversion by the sword is, however, fundamental to Islam.
There is no "denial" of stem cells. The debate is over what kind of stem cells we should be using. It's an ethical debate, not religious. Evolution has been used as an excuse for eugenics and genocide, so don't even bother. And I suppose you can get actual quotes from Bush saying that God told him to start wars? What do you think about Hillary saying the holy spirit guides her?
From what I gather, Inventec, a Taiwanese company, supplies the parts from Taiwan and builds them in Shanghai, China.
"There aren't many movies out there with cool mathematicians."
Chaotician, actually! Chaotician!
Phi doesn't subscribe to Chaos.
Apparently the Online game explained how Neo could connect with the machines without being plugged in. It's due to the "Biological Interface Program".
"Despite having "died" during the course of the third film, Trinity made a return to the series in the official continuation, The Matrix Online. Taking on a major role in the game's final chapters it was revealed both she and Neo were actually the cumulation of decades of Machine research into translating human DNA perfectly into Machine code, allowing them to interface directly with technology without the need for simulated interfaces."
It's a bit odd to have Trinity be part of the program too.
"Fardawg, I would take you more seriously, or at least pretend to, if you didn't post two, three, four, and even five posts in a row."
That's OK. I don't pretend to take you seriously.
I post more than one if they are long and have (in my opinion) different topics. If I am replying to someones post directly I don't feel like adding something that isn't directed at them.
"Please."
No. ![]()
I combined the ones that did belong (IMHO) with the ones above it. I think I got in the habit posting on Youtube.
Here is a outline of the father and Vader characters in the scripts. Just for the heck of it.
Rough Draft- Vader (aka Valorum) turns good at the end. The father is alive, mostly machine and sacrifices his life.
Revised First- same. Vader called Dodana
Second Draft- Father is alive at the end. Vader stays evil and supposedly dies.
Third Draft- The father is dead but Luke remembers him. Vader stays evil and lives
Fourth Draft- The father is dead and Luke doesn't really remember him much. Vader stays evil and lives.
Revised Fourth- Same as film.
It's clear that as late as the Third Draft (most likely 4th too) The father and Vader are separate. In the 3rd he decides to keeps Vader alive and by the revised 4th the father died before Luke could know him. It's not clear from what I saw when Lucas decided that Vader would be part machine.
David Lynch's Dune. I've been waiting for a commentary on it. The only one I can find is a pay riff track.
And finish the original SW trilogy.
And Bram Stoker's Dracula would be Excellent! You can take the "excellent" as either Ted Theodore Logan or Mr. Burns. Both work.
"There's not a shred of evidence in any of the drafts that Vader was Luke's father."
Never said there was. (Though the fact that he combined aspects of the redeemed Vader figure with the mostly machine father figure could be evidence that he was at least toying with the idea of making Vader the father. He was reading Campbell at the time and could have taken the idea of the Atonement With the Father step to heart).
What I said was that he COULD have had the notion by the time ANH started filming. And if he did have it by then I see no problem with his keeping it a secret till the scene where it is revealed. I wouldn't want to give that away. He seems to have kept if from everyone until he told Mark. The shooting script had the alternate line. Are you saying that he had the idea just before the rolled film?
"It's tantamount to hero-worship to argue that he had not only conceived the idea but was actively keeping it secret."
Hero worship? I specifically said that I wasn't an apologist and didn't believe his version of the story. He clearly makes shit up. Some "hero-worship"!
"But no-one ever thinks Lucas didn't make that one up on the spot for ROTJ"
By "make it up on the spot" I assume you mean once he started writing the script and knew he wasn't making another sequel. The June 12, 1981 Revised Rough Draft has Leia as his sister. He also cut out the more passionate kiss in Empire. Which he said was because he decided then that she would be the sister.
"Why? Because Lucas has spent the last decade going around trying to rewrite the story of Star Wars..."
Or maybe because he isn't as big a liar as you (and me) think...Nah!
Seriously though, why even bring Leia up? It doesn't help your case in the least.
I have read some of Secret History. I don't see it "laying to rest" anything more than that Vader wasn't Luke's father the whole time and that Darth Vader = Dark Father was BS. I have no problem with the idea that Lucas didn't want anyone to know that he was toying with the idea.
Notice I said, "THOUGHT that Vader MIGHT be Luke's father by the time they shot ANH." I don't know that he had decided that it was the case by then.
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