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Friends In Your Head | Forums → Movie Stuff → Ready Player One, Star Wars, and the Dangers (And Joys) of Nostalgia
I really liked Ready Player One and thought it worked for all the reasons you obviously didn't. I also like that you've written this and probably agree with most of it.
There's a writer called Javier Grillo-Marxuach who does a great podcast on TV writing called 'Children Of Tendu' made the point that films needed to stop quoting Star Wars despite running a show called 'The Middleman' which did movie references every week and he's right.
I feel similarly about big ongoing movie franchises, I love Star Wars and Bond and would welcome another 3, 5 or 20 part film series that entertained me similarly but I don't want every movie to try and be that, I still want some movies to have, you know an ending!
But seriously, Ready Player One was a lot of fun and you are way to hard on it.
I'll fully admit that I have a pretty visceral distaste for it, probably more than it deserves. For me, in addition to its mediocre writing and its reliance on pop culture as a crutch, it's just so masturbatory. It's unhealthy, IMO, and it's the exact sort of fantasy I'd have had a few years ago--the whole world becomes obsessed with the things I like, I get the perfect girl without having to undergo any personal change whatsoever, etc. etc. Sure, Cline pays lip service to the notion that you have to get off the computer and have real relationships, but that's not a theme that's prevalent throughout the book, it's sorta just dropped at the end as an escape route. All of which wouldn't bother me nearly so much if the book did have interesting things to say about all the pop culture stuff, but it just doesn't.
It's kinda like the WAYDM crew feel about Pan's Labyrinth, for me. If it weren't so universally acclaimed I wouldn't have nearly as much hate for it, but as is the overwhelming love coupled with its flaws coupled with my overwhelming dislike for nostalgia porn just made it the perfect storm. I don't begrudge someone their enjoyment of it, just like I don't think someone is an awful person for liking TPM, but I just had this visceral hatred for it that I had to exorcise.
Well, you at least articulated your points well. I might pick it up out of curiosity and a bit of 80s nostalgia myself. The Goldbergs interest me for a similar reason.
Personally, I think The Force Awakens works for me, not due to nostalgia, but because it actually feels like a new film. It may not be, and time will tell, but I watch all the trailers and promo material and I get excited because it looks like something interesting. Maybe it is nostalgia, and I know I got excited for TPM in high school, but it genuinely grabs my attention.
One of my reactions to popular culture as a whole is not just the trending in nostalgia but the free availability of different content. There is no longer a wait for content to be produced, and so there is a lack of appreciation for what it takes to produce art.
It reminds me of a reaction video to "50 Shades of Grey" and commenting on how sexuality has become more voyeuristic rather than relationship oriented. Content is viewed but not really participated in. It all strikes me as very interesting development based upon the advancing technology.
For what it's worth, Prax, I agree with your sentiment so much that I gave up on modern culture entirely six months ago and became a communications monk. ![]()
See, I just don't understand where you're coming from when you say it takes all its influences and synthesizes them into something new. That's exactly the opposite of what it does--it simply regurgitated its influences verbatim. Like I mentioned in the review, in description after description it simply pulls stuff like "It was like this thing from x movie" or "It looked like a Cylon", etc. Star Wars is absolutely indebted to its influences, but there's a huge amount of invention going on at the same time--the sheer visual creativity at play in the OT is one of its chief delights. I can enjoy that visual inventiveness and worldbuilding without having any knowledge of Hidden Fortress, but if I were to read RP1 without any context for the stuff it's referencing I would have absolutely no idea what the fuck things look like the majority of the time because it uses pre-existing works as a crutch rather than a foundation.
To address your point that there's a difference between good writing and good storytelling: I absolutely agree, and Tolkien is a good example. However, RP1's bad writing directly feeds into bad storytelling. For instance, when describing his girlfriend, the protagonist talks about how she made him a better person, opened his eyes, and in general "changed how I see the world". Does the book bother to actually show you any of this through their interactions? No, we're simply told it happens in spite of the fact that the protagonist remains basically the same character throughout the book. Cline's sloppy writing leads to sloppy storytelling which, to use the cliche, tells us an arc has happened rather than actually organically, plausibly showing it.
None of this is an attack on your love for the book--you liked it and I didn't and that's fine. I just genuinely don't understand what you mean when you say the book was magical, wholly new, or in any way a synthesis of influences rather than something that uses them as a crutch.
hmmm. I think our disagreement has more to do with expectations than anything else. And, again, I think this plays into the idea that each person's brain synthesizes information differently.
Most of my highest rated books are the heart-on-its-sleeve, cheesy, immutable archetype, hero fantasy stories. I love that stuff. I really don't care if a character has an arc or not, because if it's fun, has a lot of heart, and makes me feel the joy of victory at the end I'm all for it baby.
But see, that's just my sociological predisposition. Yours is obviously quite different, in that lack of character arc is a big issue for you. For me, my love for books like that stems from my old-school upbringing, and my uber love for unabashed geekery, which RP1 has in spades! The whole text of the book bleeds the sort of authentic and over-enthusiastic love for all things 80's, and even though I argued it's a Maguffin, I think it only enhances the text because it's obvious to me that Cline is doing it because he actually loves it and not because he's fanwanking.
To address your point about the "having influences" vs. actually using the things themselves, I'm not sure what to say. To me it was like "okay, Cline established the rules that the contest is based around all things 80's. It therefore makes total sense and is actually really cool that the characters get to physically use, interact with and embody all these 80's icons." Again, I think it comes down to vernacular, but a totally different kind whereby the 80's ephemera themselves are used as individual words and sentences that make up a unique whole. Yeah, someone without that cultural knowledge wouldn't be able to imagine the things he's talking about, but neither would I be able to understand a novel written in Russian. By it's very design it is a sectarian book not meant for everyone.
Lastly, back to the character arc idea, what's so fantastic about it for me, is that instead of the events changing the character, the character changes events. His actions help ratchet up the dramatic tension page by page throughout the book until finally, with everything held so taught so as to be almost unbearable, he unleashes this titanic narrative climax that serves as a shouting testament to his nature as the penultimate hero. So, basically I'm arguing that by contrasting his unchanging solidarity with the overwhelming state of change in the plot, it only serves to underscore how awesome he is. Which, to me, is rousing and incomparably uplifting.
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