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I have a feeling this is a hatefest that I won't enjoy.

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I went into this commentary with a long list of things that I hated about this movie. As it happens, you guys touched on almost none of them. So now there's twice as many things I hate about Elysium. A+ work, fellas.

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What are you doing, movie-now with twice as much hate wink

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Was one of those criticisms Jodie Foster's weird French accent?

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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10 (edited by BigDamnArtist 2014-02-19 10:40:44)

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Q: How many Screenwriters does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: THE LIGHT BULB??? But that's the best part!!!

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"The irony" being the fact that you're a hair's breadth from going, "What a bunch of neeerrrrddddss."

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I disagree strongly. Movies are generally trying to build a believable world to suck you into the narrative. Having stupid nonsensical computer interfaces and code scrolling by totally pulls you out of the narrative every time (and more and more people increasingly know how to code).

That's one of the great things about David Fincher, he takes the time to make sure his technical details are accurate, and Social Network and Girl With the Dragon Tattoo benefit from completely accurate and believable coding.

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18 (edited by paulou 2014-02-19 14:01:54)

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19 (edited by bullet3 2014-02-19 14:23:57)

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Also, I'm not saying the code itself has to be accurate, because you're right that you won't spot that stuff in the moment (usually, though I was ecstatic to see proper shell commands being used in Social Network). The bigger question is the design/look of that stuff, which tends to be over-engineered graphical bullshit flying all over the screen, which bears no resemblance to actual coding (Skyfall is the most recent culprit of this crap).

Just toning that stuff down, or making something visually believable, goes a long way.

You mention the Matrix, and while the vertically scrolling matrix character stuff makes no sense, the way it's presented visually is simple and consistent enough that you can buy that this is just how the machine-engineered code works, and that the human operators have gotten good enough at looking at it that they can pick up on what's going on. It also doesn't hurt that the "in-world" hacking we see Trinity doing in those movies is actually pretty believable too. Wachowski's did their homework.

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In general, it's always a good thing to have as much detail to your world as possible. Like the LOTR armor that had inscriptions on the inside. 99.9% of the audience won't care about inaccurate code, so making it accurate won't ruin it or anything. And the people who will notice will be thrilled.

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Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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22 (edited by Vapes 2014-02-19 17:11:21)

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25 (edited by MasterZap 2014-02-20 01:01:10)

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Ok so I was confused by one comment you guys did. In the movie *I* saw, Jodie Foster DID have a very thick (and not terribly authentic) French accent.... do you Ammurrcans get a re-dubbed version where she speaks all yankee-doodly-like!?

Also, the scene you were hunting for (Where Robo-Charlto learns about the code mcguffin) is there in the movie. It makes no SENSE (he is tracking/somehow remote-scanning Robo-Daemon, and up pops a *scan of the code*... he looks at the code and somehow automatically realizes "Oh, If I change President=RoboCharlto I will rewl".... and  ...as a programmer, this is broken on so many levels of crazy when it comes to "code" (why does code do that, if they can READ the code they already HAVE the code, how can you by reading a screenful of assembly language determine that is what it does, yada yada yada)) ....but it DOES provide the "plot point" you guys where hunting....

/Z

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