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Hijacking this to say that 4 was pretty much everything that was bad about the first 3, only worse.

And racist.

But goddamn, even in that movie I couldn't hate Tucci.

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I saw Tucci today.

He drives a Mercedes SUV, and sometimes he does it in Burbank.

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That is actually a really valid point, for a lot of people, and I'm not even speaking to their intelligence or anything, simple fact is some people, a lot of people,  DON'T CARE movies in the same way we all do. They don't think about, it doesn't even register that that is something they should want to think about. Movies are a fun night out to enjoy with friends or kill some time in a somewhat enjoyable way. They're definitely not the kind of people that are going to read reviews with a critical eye, if they read reviews at all it'll be to find out if a movies worth spending 12 bucks on, full stop.

CinemasSins/Honest Trailers could be seen as a gateway drug into that world, a primarily comedy based method of getting across some funny jokes but also sneaking in a bit of deeper criticism that a large part of the audience would never have even considering thinking about.

Is it going to be the best way to get accross EVERY SINGLE point in a 100% ACCURATE way? No.

But then we don't throw 5th year University MicroBiology textbooks at 6 year olds either.

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I get that Fridge Logic / Plot Hole Critiquing / Whatever can come across as really inconsistent and hypocritical at times, but the way I see it, is that each movie has a set of scales. If a film does enough little things right (and at the right times. ebb and flow, rhythm and structure and all that) it can weigh down the scale one way, so that when something ridiculous comes along, it doesn't tip the scale back into "Noooope! I'm OUT."

If Karl had hunted McClane down by following his bloody footprints as soon as that flashbang cleared, bad guys win, end of movie. But Die Hard does almost everything else perfectly, so I don't care.
The ending of Edge of Tomorrow probably has serious issues, but I haven't questioned it yet, 'cause I walked out of the cinema with a smile on my face.
And you're right. People direct a lot of criticisms at Crystal Skull that can be aimed at other films (the raft in Temple of Doom is pretty much the same thing as the fridge, I agree). But! Crystal Skull is almost entirely devoid of all those little moments in the other movies that buy goodwill.
As for Dark Knight Rises, I never really heard people state that the plot holes were why they didn't like it. The other movies had plot holes too. I think the film (for me, anyway) just didn't buy enough goodwill (or would buy goodwill and then lose it) because thematically, it felt inconsistent and not clear about what it was saying.

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not long to go now...

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"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Fun fact, because of you sorry goddamned assholes, we're doing an intermission this weekend called PLOT HOLE FILM CRITICISM.

So, good job Doc and Pav and Herc and BDA. You MESSED UP OUR WEEKEND.

*cries, runs away foppishly*

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"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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I think it's worth pointing out that Cinema Sins and Honest Trailers are very different animals. The first of these, Cinema Sins doesn't really claim to state anything about the overall quality of a film, it's merely listing its 'sins' (and continuity errors definitely fall within that). Honest Trailers, on the other hand, seeks to mock a film's absurdity by using the most absurd representation of it - the action-packed, spoiler-filled trailer.

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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I know this is probably going to anger the panelists (and many of the forum members for even suggesting it) but I think you guys should seriously consider watching a handful of these videos beforehand, to refresh your memories on the actual content, instead of what you think or remember of them, (which can be a bit removed) and to give you specific talking points and examples to delve into.

Yes, all of those words were one sentence. I did it just to see if I could. smile

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I have lost the will to hate at the moment.  I can't do it.

I dunno, I kinda like Nostalgia critic. Don't really know the others. I watch NC to make me laugh, and that it does. I'm not there for something super critical, just something silly about movies/tv that entertains me for awhile.

Protection and power are overrated. I think you are very wise to choose happiness and love. -Uncle Iroh

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"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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