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Damn - I've going to have to avoid this thread for the next few days until I see it. Even vague comments give away too much. I don't even like to get a consensus thumbs up or thumbs down, lest it influence my own perception.

not long to go now...

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I do not understand the hate for this movie at all. It paid off all the build from the previous two installments and delivered the best third act I've ever seen in any movie. Seriously, the last 45 minutes of this movie are absolutely fucking incredible.

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I don't hate it, I just didn't love it as I had the previous two.

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looooved it! Going again tonight this was a perfect storm for me, comic booky pulpy yet as serious as a heart attack for its concepts.

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Ya, while I think the movie has problems on a detail level (it's apparent to me that this was a 3+ hour movie that Nolan had to painfully cut 20 minutes out of to fit the maximum IMAX runtime), I think it completely succeeds on all the important, overarching character and thematic payoffs, to where as a whole I love the damned thing.

I think the people that came out disappointed wanted to see Dark Knight 2, and were sad that this movie trends way more comic-booky than that. The thing is, he already made Dark Knight, the Heat remake with Batman in it, you can't just redo that same formula. The logical thing is to up the stakes and do a big blow-out finish  for the final conclusion,and I have no problem with that.

Ironically enough, the plot elements in this movie bug me less than they did in the Dark Knight, because that movie was staying so grounded all the way through that things like big Explosive Barrels on the Ferries looked silly and out of place. This final movie feels more comic-booky to me from the get-go, and so the more outlandish elements gel for me and I don't question them.

I also think that structurally this final installment just feels more satisfying on the whole, because they save the big blow-out action sequences for the ending, instead of the middle (as in Dark Knight). You get all this awesome build-up and one of my favorite movie tropes, the training montage, and then what feels like a 40 minute-long continuous action packed climax.

I do still wish we could get an extended cut to iron out the issues that are there and make it perfect, but for me this is easily one of the best trilogies ever at this point, and this last installment shits all over Return of the Jedi as far as I'm concerned.

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Absolutely loved this, thought it was better than the previous two movies by a country mile. I never much liked Batman Begins' third act, and the Dark Knight was a little too long and overindulgent.

I can't remember the last time the stakes in a third act were so high, and being so on the edge of my seat for every minute of it.

Sure, you can pick holes in it. Go looking for flaws and you'll find them. What film can stand up to that?

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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Care to cite an example of this persistent, screaming and in your face flaw?

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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I didn't read this thread, but did anyone else go "HUH?!" when Batman leveled the batwing in front of the truck and machine gunned the SHIT out of the driver?  Didn't they have a funny quip about the no-gun rule like 30 seconds earlier?


- Branco

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Haven't seemed the movie, but that might be a botched reference to The Dark Knight Returns. Near the end, Batman brings out a tank and begins blasting the army of punks.

"Rubber bullets. Honest."

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That was the joke in Dark Knight Returns. Lots of people probably died, but hey, it wasn't intensional on his part!

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