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dbngaa, you should add City of God and The Grey Zone to that uplifting family film festival.

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The thing you have to understand about Grave of the Fireflies is... it's an autobiography. The writer is ashamed to have actually survived, so treated the fictional version of himself the way he feels things should have gone. That puts a whole new spin on the story.

For a different treatment on the subject, go watch Barefoot Gen, an autobiographical cartoon about surviving the atomic bomb. More uplifting than Grave of the Fireflies, to a very surprising degree.

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Uh... It has a happy ending, I guess... The manga is even better, btw. Go read the manga.
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I have the manga, or at least the first parts. The movie basically seemed to say, "yeah, getting nuked is bad, but hey, keep a positive attitude!" Safe to say, it's creator came out of WW II much happier than the creator of Grave of the Fireflies.

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Weirdly powerful film. A definite must see.

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Zarban wrote:

Boys.... you're scaring the straights....  big_smile  Grave of the Fireflies is the feel-good movie of the year!  big_smile

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What's strange to me is the choice of letting the kids die. If they had lived, the audience would think "Gosh, Japanese people who lived thru WW2 had it hard," which I think is what the film maker wants. Instead, it sort of sets up the audience to think, "Gosh, only the complete bastards survived WW2, and they let helpless orphans starve!" And then they would go beat up an old person.

That's a good point, Zarban.  It does undercut the intended message a bit.  Everyone go watch Empire of the Sun instead.

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dbngaa wrote:

That's a good point, Zarban.  It does undercut the intended message a bit.  Everyone go watch Empire of the Sun instead.

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dbngaa wrote:
Zarban wrote:

Boys.... you're scaring the straights....  big_smile  Grave of the Fireflies is the feel-good movie of the year!  big_smile

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What's strange to me is the choice of letting the kids die. If they had lived, the audience would think "Gosh, Japanese people who lived thru WW2 had it hard," which I think is what the film maker wants. Instead, it sort of sets up the audience to think, "Gosh, only the complete bastards survived WW2, and they let helpless orphans starve!" And then they would go beat up an old person.

That's a good point, Zarban.  It does undercut the intended message a bit.  Everyone go watch Empire of the Sun instead.

What we have here is the difference between what the audience thinks the message will be going in, and what it actually is. You can't fault a movie for doing X badly when it wasn't trying to do X...

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What's heard is more important than what's said.

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paulou wrote:

What's heard is more important than what's said.

How dare you say that about my hair!!?!?!?


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