Topic: The Cook on Red October

I know that this infamous scene has been discussed in a couple of episodes. But, after watching "The Hunt for Red October" with the commentary track on, I found Mctiernan's opinion of it to be very ironic.
I think it is universally held that the introduction of the soviet cook, along with the subsequent 4 second long "hold" on him at the scene's conclusion, epitomizes a director "showing his hand."

The DiF crew has mentioned other "giveaways" which escape me, but here's John Mctiernan's take: I paraphrase

" I admit the (involvement) of the cook strikes me as a little frail. I think maybe i should have intercut to him a few more times, to, you know, highten the suspicion."

Pretty hilarious, that the director thought he underplayed it. Given how so many of us view it as a dead giveaway.

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Re: The Cook on Red October

I just say that shit all the time because it's a line in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. pimp

Teague Chrystie

I have a tendency to fix your typos.

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Re: The Cook on Red October

Oh yeah, you're right: Oddly enough, Shane Black makes a cameo in "Hunt"

Harry : Okay, I apologize. That is a terrible scene. It’s like, why was that in the movie? Gee do you think maybe it’ll come back later? Maybe? I hate that. It’s like the TV’s on, talking about the new power plant, hmm, wonder where the climax will happen? Or that shot of the cook in Hunt For Red October? So anyway, sorry.”

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I just watched Red October yesterday and I hold to my opinion that "the shot of the cook" is not as terrible a giveaway as Kiss Kiss Bang Bang tells it. It's maybe four seconds at the longest, there's no push in of any kind and it's sandwiched in amongst lots of other "the crew is generally suspicious or might easily become suspicious" stuff.

I think McTiernan is right that he underplayed it, but I wouldn't consider it frail. In the beginning, the Red October's officers are very concerned about a spy or the crew otherwise mutinying if and when they discover the treason. But that aspect is eventually forgotten as the actual mechanics of escaping the Soviet navy and defecting to the United States dominates the film. But when the cook pops back up and fires into the control room, it's the perfect moment that's been established but forgotten by the audience.