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Not gonna lie, that got me excited for Disney's streaming service more than anything else when I found out that Diego Luna's reprising his role.

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I thought he was a compelling character with an interesting arc and an effectively subtle backstory. So.

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Well, R1 reveres the Original Trilogy in a really shallow way. It's literally trying to reanimate its corpse in its use of CG Tarkin and Leia, and that same superficial appeal to the "spirit" of the old films is there in everything from the shitty in-jokes like Ponda Baba and Dr. Evazan showing up on Jedha to the scene of Darth Vader being badass that was shoehorned into the movie for no reason other than the screams opening night. Hell, the very premise is an attempt to fix a perceived "plot hole" in the OT to make it more impervious to criticism. And I'll be honest, the sugar high worked for a while for me. The more eyerolling fanservice I was never on board with, but the final battle was so cool on a surface level that I let it buoy my opinion of the entire movie for a long time.

TLJ is the inverse of that, which is precisely why it made so many people mad. It loves and respects the OT, but not on the superficial "Wouldn't it be awesome if this character did something awesome they way they used to?" way that R1 does. Luke explicitly lampshades this with disgust: "How did you think this was going to end? I take out my laser sword and fight the entire First Order?" TLJ (and, I maintain, TFA) is about reaching deeper behind the glaze of childhood wonder and trying to develop a mature perspective on the heroes we love, their gigantic flaws and all. TFA balanced that with a lot of gee-whiz excitement, which made it go down easier--TLJ took a more drastic approach, which is why I and a lot of people initially had a mixed reaction. But the more I revisit it the more I love it for that. Meanwhile, a lot of the people who hate it because it doesn't love the OT in the same way they do just stamp their feet and idolize Rogue One because it doesn't require much in the way of examining their hero worship--it's just two hours of awesome things happeing because wouldn't that be cool?

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Great explanation, thanks for that! Although IMO to say R1 is "two hours of awesome things happening" is a massive stretch, even if fan service and OT worship is something you're into wink

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This is fair, it's probably forty minutes at most. tongue

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Welp the teaser's out. Looks flashy, but with the whole "rise of skywalker" thing I'm nervous JJ ain't gonna go with Johnson's "the legend is a lie and it doesn't matter who your parents are" theme.

Of course, it could go the other way and say the new "rising skywalker" is specifically a nobody with the "skywalker" mantle. Hmm. Here's hoping. Anywhoo I really liked the character choices of Last Jedi and I hope this one is good.

ALSO WHY IS "RISE" IN EVERY TITLE THESE DAYS

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Yes. Moving on is...please. please.

And I agree about the other thing, too. Yipes.

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haha, as someone that didn't know WHAT to expect from the forthcoming IX, after VIII literally killed the biggest baddie that VII presented... the trailer from IX was good to see.  All for coming full circle to the even bigger biggest baddie of them all.

At some point, rabid fandom is the snake that eats its own tail, and Star Wars fans are some of the most spoiled out there.  In 20 years or so, maybe they'll be more appreciated - perhaps like the prequels are more respected now than when they "destroyed" the franchise 20 years ago.  There's still been a care put into these films that hasn't been replicated anywhere (and that includes Marvel films) - and that has been worth the price of admission alone.

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I mean it's a bold choice to introduce the Multiverse to Star Wars by bringing in the Animated Clone Wars version of Palpatine, but I guess if that's where they want to go with it...

Also Marty... are we just ignoring the Red/Blue colour scheme happening in the RoTJ poster too then?

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I think those eyes and brows are still killing it for me. I *did* like that Last Jedi poster.

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I don't understand how this can happen with a franchise that big, with the highest of public attention, expectations and pressures. It may not be the theatrical poster, but it's still an official visual. Someone is probably getting fired for this.

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I think you overestimate how much people care. To most it's a simple - as in, not ten million faces busy - poster with a saber duel, lightning, and Palps in the back.

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