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This is off the top of my head, so it will be so very incomplete. Buuuut …

The Treasure of the Sierra Madre

Two Mules for Sister Sara

High Noon

The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance

The Searchers

Those'd probably be on my short list of essential westerns. Treasure of the Sierra Madre is not really a western in any meaningful sense, but it captures the aesthetic and the tone really well, I think. I mean, any sensible person would put the Man With No Name trilogy on the list, but I'm not doing that because mumblemumbleneverseenthemshutupmumblemumble.

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Cool man, that sounds like a good start.

7 (edited by C-Spin 2012-02-20 22:25:02)

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I'd make your second to last western "Once Upon a Time in the West".  This was the last Sergio Leone Western.  It sorta turns the genre on it's thumb a bit.  Not as far as Unforgiven does, but it's a nice slow yarn of a western.

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The western that I know of that sticks out in my mind the most is The Quick and the Dead, because next to Shawshank Redemption, it was on TNT ALL the time.  It has Sharon Stone, Gene Hackman, Russell Crow, and Leonardo DiCaprio.  It's very cheesy, and I really like it.  And some of other people you may have heard of appear in it, like Lance Henrikson, and Tobin Bell. Big time black hat vs. white hat movie.  I surprised you guys didn't mention it.

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I have to admit I'm really surprised that so few of the forum members appear to have watched many westerns. Mainly because as a kid, one of the most obvious toy or roleplaying games was to play cowboys and indians and movies of that genre were the inspiration for new characters and stories etc. Like others, I was born long after the genre's heyday but I was still able to watch a fair amount of them due to the fact that they were often shown on daytime TV here in the UK. The afternoon film on one of the 4 terrestial TV channels over here would invariably be an old movie - either a WW2 film, a Western or perhaps a black and white adventure film.

It's tempting to think of Unforgiven as a landmark but it wasn't entirely a new approach - the Western genre has always had 'darker' revisions over the decades. The Searchers for example was not a typical Western at the time (compare and contrast to Stagecoach), and others like Little Big Man, Soldier Blue and the Wild Bunch have all had different takes on the genre. Even Eastwood himself had been in several movies which were far removed from the typical John Wayne adventure long before Unforgiven came around (Pale Rider, Outlaw Josey Wales), and the Spagetti Westerns are a very different take on the standard set of tropes. Young Guns and Dances with Wolves both preceded Unforgiven as well.

Good Westerns worth a watch (no particular order):
Wild Bunch
The Searchers
Young Guns
Tombstone
True Grit
Geronimo (both Wes Studi and 1962 versions)
Gunfight at the OK Corral
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
The Last Outlaw
The Quick and the Dead
Maverick
Silverado
A Man Called Horse
Broken Arrow

And then there's Deadwood, which is a fantastic series.

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Seconding the vote for Man with No Name trilogy. That was my gateway drug into westerns and showed me I could love the genre, I really think that's a great starting point for people unfamiliar with the genre. If you're a fan of Inglourious Basterds, then it's really an easy jump from there into something like The Good the Bad and the Ugly, though I'd recommend starting with a Fistful of Dollars.

Once Upon a Time in the West is a goddamned masterpiece, but you can't watch it as your first Western, you need to work up to it to be able to appreciate it's brilliance (and tolerate the running time, Sergio Leone's movies grew exponentially in length as he got older).

Red Sun is one I'd recommend that not a lot of people have seen. It's like a combination of a Western and a Samurai movie. Charles Bronson teams up with a visiting Samurai (Toshiro Mifune) to recover a sacred artifact stolen from the Japanese ambassador's train. The bad guy is played by Alain Delon, so its like a big badass trifecta. It plays almost like a buddy cop movie, think Rush Hour as a Western.

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Get outta here with your context.

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"Those who exchange cookies for safety deserve neither!"
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not long to go now...

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Just listened to this. Nice work.

Regarding Frances Fisher, I think the relevant resemblance is to Sondra Locke.

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Unforgiven didn't do much for me, but this could warrant a rewatch-along when it's released. I haven't seen much japanese film outside of Kurosawa, they don't seem to have a movie making presence in the rest of the world besides their celebrated animation and ridiculed kaiju movies. I've heard somewhere that their movies generally aren't very good, but this certainly looks promising.

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....you just blew my mind, Marty

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"Goodnight Ned"

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