Topic: Aliens: Special Edition

We love Eddie, and not just because he's stunning to look at and a tremendous player here in Hollywood. We love him because he can bring the pain, and bring the pain he does.

"Asimovian." He says that shit. Who says that shit? Eddie.

I consider this a good summary of the episode.

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Very entertaining. Eddie had some great insights.

I always assumed Arcturus was a colony filled with easy chicks, not alien chicks.

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except that apparently whatever "Arcturians" are, you can't tell the males from the females, and it doesn't matter.   

Even assuming that the characters are teasing each other, it's always seemed to me there's more to that story than just relaxed Arcturian morals.   It's as if they're talking about sheep or something.

In fact there's an old joke that goes sorta like that.  (The punchline is "yeah, but you picked the UGLIEST one!"  You can probably work out the rest of the joke yourself. :-)

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Right. I guess I just never took that remark literally. It just seems like any other discussion of girls by military men; they always seem to claim that the other guy's date was a dude.

Iron Man comes to mind, and I think there was a similar thing in Top Gun.

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according to the first draft of the script, Wierzbowski actually had lines.  His lines were the ones about cornbread and some other stuff.  I think his lines ended up being given to the Frost character.  That is, unless the skinny, black guy is the Wierzbowski character...

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So. I am listening for Aliens right now and right in the beginning you guys talk about which movie is Bill Gates (Aliens) and which is Steve Jobbs (Alien).. And joking mentioning Jobb´s cancer and how this joke will turn out in the future..... Well..   yikes

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Damn.  Forgot about that.

Eddie Doty

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Hee hee.  That one took a while to pay off, but it was just a matter of time.

That's nothing compared to the number of verbal timebombs in DIF episodes that will all go off when _I_ die.    lol

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Great commentary. Perfect movie.

not long to go now...

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I would have thought this was the obvious one, but then no one did it. So I had too.

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Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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God loves you!

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not long to go now...

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I'm really late to the party on this one, but it's not my fault. I only discovered this page like a few weeks ago through Zarban's page (which I in turn found through Rifftrax iRiff hunting). Anyway, I'll throw my two cents in for the hell of it:

1) The Arcturians line bothered me too for the same reason. I eventually decided that it was just probably a human colony. Humans can get pretty weird over a few generations if they are geographically isolated even on Earth, so I can only imagine what an isolated colony in space would be like.

2) I thought that almost every special edition scene was something that the movie was better without except for two:

2a) The scene with Ripley's daughter was short, poingant and added some emotional resonance to her character as well as helped explain why she was so crazy about saving Newt. Also, an interesting bit of triva: The upcomming Alien game that actually looks like it -won't- suck is a pure horror game in which you are trapped in a space station with an single Alien. It's not a shooter like the previous games, and you -cannot- fight the Alien because it will pretty much murder you outright. The protagonist of the new game is Amanda Ripley and takes place 15 years after Alien and focuses on her searching for her mother.

2b) The autoguns scene. For some bizarre reason, these scene was included in a cut that exists in the various broadcast TV cuts even though I'm pretty sure it wasn't in the theatrical version I saw. Yes, I agree with all the points you guys made about these scenes but I liked them because it was an earlier indication that the Aliens weren't just animals and could learn.

Everything else, though, I could have done without. The colony scenes undercut the tension of when the Marines landed on the colony because in the theatrical cut you were only seeing it for the first time so you never had a baseline for what is normal. In the SE, the second they leave the dropship it's immediately obvious that this is not normal because you know what it's supposed to be like. Hudson's painful "badass" speech was just awkward. Even the little extra lingering glances between Ripley and Hicks towards the end that imply a little brewing romance were good cuts.

One other thing: I had a slightly different interpretation of Ripley's behavior in the hive. Yes, emptying all her guns was a tactically unsound but made sense for the character, but what prompted her Alien baby murder spree was the hatching of the egg. The look she gives the Queen after she sees the egg hatch I read as Ripley interpreting that act as the Queen trying to pull a fast one (i.e. the big xenos back off but then Queenie tries to slip a facehugger into the mix without Ripley noticing). Ripley gives her a "oh you sneaky bitch" look just before she starts torching the nest. Sadly, she then kinda goes off the rails at that point and we all know what happens after that.

Thanks for your time and keep up the good work!

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I'm not talking about dubbing over swearing. I'm talking about doing an entire new take of a scene with the cast saying new dialog. In Ghostbusters, the TV version has Bill Murray saying "Well, wasn't that a load of fun" or some such when he comes out of the hotel ballroom, instead of his "We came, we saw, we kicked it's ass!" You can tell he probably only agreed to one take of that version smile He also has a different joke instead of the "dickless" line, with a different setup. In Animal House, they filmed it once with women topless, and once with them in bras. I saw the bra version on TV long before I ever saw the theatrical version. Some of this footage even slipped into the main movie: when the guys are fleeing the Black nightclub on their road trip, the girl who jumps out the car window still has her bra on while it was long gone a scene earlier. Obviously, the editor liked the bra take better than the topless one, and figured nobody would notice. Well, either that, or the girl refused to do the stunt without some protection.

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I just heard something interesting. I remember you guys mentioning how weird and out of place Frost's line about Arcturian Poontang was since it seemed to be contrary to the fiction of the universe the rest of the dialog was building (i.e. that humans had never to their knowledge encountered alien life beyond probably "bugs" and microbes).

I was listening to the Cracked podcast in an episode in which they discussed best and worst fictional companies to work at and they referenced the Wolfpop podcast "I Was There, Too". In that podcast, they interview "everyone else" from famous movies and scenes (such as everyone on the bus from Speed who wasn't Sanda Bullock and Keanu Reeves).

Anyway, apparently they did an ep in which he interviewed Ricco Ross (the actor who played Frost). I haven't listened to the original ep yet, but the topic of the "Arcturan Poontang" line came up. I remember you guys puzzling over that line in the podcast and I had the same reaction because it seemed to be contrary to the canon of the universe they were building otherwise (that humans had probably never encountered alien life outside of maybe "bugs" and microbes). According the podcast that mentioned it, the "Arcturan Poontang" line was actually improvised by Ross and wasn't part of the original written screenplay. According to the actor, they thought it was funny so they wrote it in.

I'm trying to verify this, but it would make sense as it didn't really seem to fit.

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