Re: Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality

Trey wrote:

/seriously, Next Generation was terrible

I remember a convention panel where the audience was trashing TNG, at which point someone at the table finally said, "Then why do you all WATCH it?" To which the reply was it was the only SF on TV smile

Next Gen started bad, got interesting, then faded. Arguing it's not "Trek" is fair, and people like David Gerrold did bail from the show after the first season because Roddenberry wasn't letting them do their thing. However, would you have felt the same if we had gotten Phase II in the 70's, which was basically Next Gen but with all the original cast except Spock?

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Next Gen Rules!

/runs

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Greg, read more than half of the first chapter.

Trey, watch more than half of a first season episode.

We done here?

/seriously, it got a lot better.

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Yes, but one can seriously argue that original Star Trek IS Kirk/Spock/Bones. It may not be intended that way, but the characters dominated the stories and format. Even the worst show is watchable just for them. Remove them, and saying the result isn't Trek is a fair point of view.

The worst mistake Trek made was killing off/writing out any new characters in the movies. If they had kept Decker and Ilia, added Saavik then others, they could have gradually had their young new cast and either continued them in the movies or sent them to TV.

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You can argue until the end of time about what something is or isn't, whether this is Harry Potter or that is Star Trek and on and on and on. And it's a meaningless question.

The only worthwhile question is, "is it worth reading/watching?"

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In my experience with both, not so far.

Teague Chrystie

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Meh. I'm mostly with Greg.

I'm a casual fan of the Potter movies and never read the books, but I adore logic and reason. But I lost a lot of interest when Harry wondered how a person could lose enough mass to take on the size of a cat. There are plenty of "science" fiction stories where that sort of thing happens; why not parody those?

Then Harry goes into the bag of gold bit. In any sensible story, the pouch would produce whatever he asked for based on his intentions and not his actual words. If the original novel worked the way the fan fic does, then the novel is just nonsensical—like plenty of stories set in non-magical worlds.

Not much of it was very funny up to that point. Then Harry and McGonagall begin arguing whether a boy whose parents were murdered by an evil wizard should buy an emergency healing kit, and she makes him cry because he suggested that bad things can happen to people, and she asks if he was abused by his foster parents. That's where the story ended for me.

Warning: I'm probably rewriting this post as you read it.

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So, I finally gave in and clicked the link, and ended up reading it all the way through. It gets dangerously meta at some points, but I enjoyed it, and will continue it read as more is posted.

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