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Overheard at a party, about a year from now...
"Hi, I'm George R.R. Martin."
"Valar Morghulis!"

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Dorkman wrote:

"What are you going to do if the books catch up to the show?"

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"Your sister."

GODDAMNIT THEY FUCKED IT ALL UP AGHHHHHHH

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Interesting that after the recent complaints that the series is more rapey than the books, tonight we got a mention of Lollys, a notable rape victim in the books, but not in the series.

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Doctor Submarine wrote:

"Your sister."

GODDAMNIT THEY FUCKED IT ALL UP AGHHHHHHH

How so? It doesn't change anything to me. I've been waiting all season for this scene, and I'm satisfied. Bitch be dead, yo.

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I just really like "Only Cat" as a line. It bugs me a little that they got rid of it because they were afraid people had forgotten who "Cat" was.

It's still a great scene, of course. I just wish they'd kept that line.

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Littlefinger wrote:

Some people die squatting over their chamber pots.

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Heh, yeah.  I liked that, too.

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Even knowing what was coming, it's been a while since I've been quite so viscerally horrified by an act of violence on screen as I was by Oberyn's death.

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Meanwhile, let's give a warm welcome to Sansa the Playahhhhhh!   She's learned from the best, now let's see what she's got... smile

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I had to stifle my reaction to Littlefinger's line because nobody else in my house has read the books. But I smiled on the inside.

But I can't really play that card for much longer. If we're honest, pretty much nothing happens in 4, or 75% of 5. Which means I have pretty much no idea what's going to happen for the next four years of this show, and I'm excited.

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From the non-book-reader review on AVClub:

Next week’s episode will stand out because of the break from format; if season four’s flair for endings is any indication, the season finale ought to leave the audience collectively without its breath. And yet I don’t think either hour will end up topping “The Mountain And The Viper.”

So adorable.

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I was amazed by how much Sansa looked like Catelyn in those shots. Dunno what trickery they did to achieve that but it definitely worked.

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Dorkman wrote:

I had to stifle my reaction to Littlefinger's line because nobody else in my house has read the books. But I smiled on the inside.

But I can't really play that card for much longer. If we're honest, pretty much nothing happens in 4, or 75% of 5. Which means I have pretty much no idea what's going to happen for the next four years of this show, and I'm excited.

And they're already starting in on a bunch of those plots. There's basically no more Sansa stuff, very little Bran stuff (assuming he meets the Children of the Forest and Bloodraven in the finale), not too much more Dany stuff until the scene in the fighting pits...well, not any good stuff anyway.

The good news is that next season we're getting the Sand Snakes and the rest of the Dorne stuff, which I'm feeling optimistic about. If they do the Ironborn stuff, that could be interesting, and the emphasis on them in last night's ep indicates that they're setting up a return to that culture. I was bored out of my skull by the Victarion chapters in AFFC though, so who knows how that'll go down. I wouldn't be surprised if Brienne meets Lady Stoneheart at the end of the season and not Merrett Frey, although the impact of that scene would be cut in half if it looks like Brienne is dead on top of the LSH reveal.

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Bloodraven's been cast for this season, so he'll turn up eventually (?).

Can see them ending S4 introducing Bloodraven as this well-intentioned (?) undead (?) father figure for an orphaned Bran as his revenging (?) undead mother comes back to life.

Haven't been able to watch any of this season so far,  but a lot of the praise this year has been on the performances, right? Considering the next big set pieces are like a book and a half away, confident they can make everyone sitting around talking to each other in this world at least as compelling as they have so far. There's lots of little fights and raids and stuff that could get peppered through next season, too.

Plus all of Arya's karate kid face ninja learning. And Huck Finn Targaryen.

Or hey they could introduce a whole bunch of new Night's King shit and it will all rage on forever.

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They've been holding off showing the Ironborn kingsmoot because Daario is really Euron in disguise.

/tinfoil

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Phi wrote:

They've been holding off showing the Irnonborn kingsmoot because Daario is really Euron in disguise.

/tinfoil

/r/asoiaf is leaking, I see.

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Speaking of tinfoilery, I dig the idea of Quaithe being Shiera Seastar functioning as Dany's Bloodraven.

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My favorite tinfoil theory is that the High Septon is Howland Reed.

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Anybody read the Dunk and Egg stuff? I burned through the graphic novels a couple weeks ago listening to the Skyrim soundtrack since I can't watch season four for another couple weeks. They're great.

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I didn't quite feel the transformation in Sansa in the books as I did in the show, especially with tonight's episode. They nailed it.

PS : don't know where they're going with this Greyworm/Missandei subplot but it's boring me.

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Brian and I got to talking yesterday about what's left to happen this season, so- as we did this time last year - how about some predictions as to what surprises are left for the final two episodes?

Obviously if you're not a GoT reader and care about spoilers - you're in the wrong thread.  Turn back now.

Last year my guesses were pretty far off - almost nothing I expected actually happened, a few of my predicted twists were scattered throughout the current season, and several still haven't happened.

So let's see...

Next week's episode is called The Watchers on the Wall, most everyone expects it'll be the Wildling/Night's Watch battle royale, and so do I.  This season's equivalent of the Battle of the Blackwater.  Which means we're saying bye-bye to Ygritte.   How much of the aftermath we'll get... beats me.  Doubt they'll take us all the way to Jon being voted the new commander of the Watch, tho.

Tywin and Tyrion - the very first image of the season was Tywin savoring his victory, and the entire season has shown Tywin being unstoppable at getting what he wants.  Even Joffrey's death wasn't much more than a minor setback for him.  At the same time we've seen repeatedly how Tywin abuses and/or orders his three children around, and especially his contempt for Tyrion.   We even had that random Littlefinger quote about chamberpots last week... if this isn't all heading directly toward that final Tywin/Tyrion double-surprise showdown, then hell, I don't know nothin'.

Ditto for Arya ditching the Hound and setting off for Braavos - all the pieces are in place for that now.  We even had that little encounter with the dying guy a few episodes back as our foreshadowing.

Coldhands missed his cue to appear last season when Sam and Gilly fled Craster's... however, the series has just set up the same scenario all over again - Gilly's in trouble in Moletown and Sam wants to go find her.  Could be the writers shuffled events a bit to postpone Coldhands until now.   If Sam goes to find Gilly  and misses the Battle of the Wall, then is brought back by Coldhands who then hooks up with Bran and co, the show will fall back into sync with the books again.     Unless Coldhands isn't actually that important and will never show up at all?

They've done an admirable job at not telegraphing the existence of Lady Stoneheart at all this season.   That would be a hell of a gobsmack to throw in at the very end of the season, but I dunno... the Tyrion/Tywin/Shae throwdown could be enough of a mindfuck to end the season on, and maybe Lady S. will stay in hiding until next year. 

On the other hand, the Brienne/Pod Comedy Roadshow doesn't really have anything else to do until they meet her, so... heck with it, I say Stoneheart makes her appearance by the end of the season.  Possibly the very last moment OF the season.

Danaerys - meh, who cares?  Maybe we'll get the revelation that her dragons have escalated from just killing sheep, since they gave us the setup for that one a while back.    Otherwise, it's just a lot of intrigue and governing coming up for her - the show could pause that just about anywhere and trump up a cliffhanger-y season ender.

Bran and company - again, whatevs.  The final episode is called The Children after all - that works as both a setup for Tywin/Tyrion and whatever they feel like doing with Bran and Children of the Forest.   So they'll get to the tree or Bran will have a vision of the tree or who knows.   Something about the tree and the Children.   All that stuff in the books made my eyes glaze over more than anything else.   Hopefully the show will find a way to make me care about that.