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I love it.

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Raiders is still better, but I also love the hell out of it. Wish they hadn't ruined Marcus and Sallah though, that's stuff that endlessly pisses me off inside an otherwise great sequel.

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We go into both.

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Ah, comedy rears its ugly head again, where slapstick is mistakenly added in place of wit (see Gimli in the Lord of the Rings movie).

That said, I don't actually mind Marcus or Sallah in this, though bear in mind that I watched both Doom and Crusade before watching Raiders.

Arguably, Marcus the fish out of water, bumbling scholar is a little more interesting dramatically than Marcus the mother hen (I won't comment on how Marcus is an American stereotype of the Englishman). There was no need for the latter in Crusade since the stakes of finding the Grail were more personal for Indiana. And without the need for someone sensible at home telling him that the quest is dangerous, Marcus ends up filling another role - that of hapless assistant, damsel, or comedy sidekick. I just don't see how Raiders Marcus would have fitted in to the story - unless the argument is essentially that no Marcus is better than goofball Marcus.

Sallah not knowing what a tank is called is pretty stupid though. I never quite understand the need for writers to undercut their characters like this. Was Sallah similarly befuddled by the magic of the metal whale in Raiders? No. I guess the line could just be poetic, emphasising Sallah's education and his grim prognosis?

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan

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With respect to the opening comments you guys had, my theory for why Last Crusade is more satisfying is pretty simple.  It's a more traditional 3 act structure versus the serial/cliffhanger 5-7 acts of Raiders.  So it feels more cohesive and easily digestible.

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"Nazis. You hate 'em, right? I hate 'em myself!"

This was not intended to be done in a Harrison Ford voice. It was actually meant to be done with more of a Michael Keaton impression. I was paraphrasing a line from Beetlejuice, in regards to Sand Worms. smile

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7 (edited by Squiggly_P 2011-11-08 18:20:47)

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When Jones Sr. gets into the tank and meets up with Brody, they recite some sort of ... thing together.

"Genius of the restoration"
"Aid our own resuscitation"

I don't know if that's supposed to be a known thing, but I have no clue what that means at all. When I saw this film for the first time, tho, I was 11 or 12. I thought Brody said "Ate our own regurgitation". For years I puzzled over why anyone would ever make that some sort of greeting. Then I watched the movie later and realized he said "Resuscitation", but I still have no idea what any of that means. After watching it with you guys, I realized that now we have Google, so I googled what the hell that means:

It's apparently an old 'University Club of Manhattan' toast.

That's pretty much all the information available. I still have no idea what the hell that means. My current theory is that "University Club of Manhattan" is some sort of slang for "place where intellectual types go to get extremely high", and one day someone just put their bong down, coughed, and then said "Genius of the restoration" at the same moment some other dude was depressing the plunger of a needle, injecting himself with massive amounts of heroin, and he just blurted out "aid our own resuscitation". The weird 'signaling the first base runner' hang gestures Jones and Brody do are obviously referencing the crazy shit both of these two theoretical gentlemen must have been doing while they were under the influence of their particular drugs. I'm thinking one of those gestures means "listening to music" and another one means "vomiting".

Anyone care to shed some light on that toast for me?

Awesome commentary once again, tho. I agree with the overall opinion that the third and final Indiana Jones movie is the best of the trilogy.

Young Indy's pudgy friend disturbs me. I bet he grew up to become the Zodiac Killer.

EDIT: Also, the new forum theme is awesome. I love retro styles.

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Ya, I dig the stark minimalism, you guys clearly took some pointers from the new gmail design and ran with it

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I don't know about UC Manhattan, but UC Chicago has some equally stupid drinking traditions.  I think on some primal level, people just think secret handshakes are super cool.

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10 (edited by Aerik 2011-11-11 14:35:21)

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"Hey, Starbuck. What do you hear?"
"Nothing but the rain."
"Then grab your gun and bring in the cat."

This callout from BSG makes no sense until you see Starbuck in her viper cockpit with shrapnel pinging it and it sounds like rain. I just assume their callout makes sense as an inside academia joke. *shrug*

That's one of my absolute favorite moments from BSG, by the way. Gah, I love sf.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that you do not have to be high, you just have to have been there. Silly inside jokes do not require people to be on drugs.

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The good ones do.

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That's our webmaster Holden being a pimp.

So whenever Holden does something pimpy with the website, we toast with Holden pimping.



I mean, duh?

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What is the 'Humor in Nazi Germany' book that is referred to around 1 hour, 33 minutes? I am enjoying Contact now on Trey's recommendation, and this one also sounds very interesting. I can't picture a Nazi laughing, I always think of them yelling.

My family watched 'Raiders' and as a child, I lost my shit when the monkey died, because I hated the idea of the poor animal suffering. So that movie was banned in our house.  'Temple of Doom' was fine. I guess it's okay to eat monkey brains as long as the monkey is not cute and my friend. I recently re-watched 'Temple' and was utterly horrified at the misogyny. When I was younger,  I really thought it was funny.

Throughout the entire series of movies I managed to be unaware that the series took place in the 30-40's. In my defense, I wore uniforms to school, and I just thought that rich people dressed like that, and archeologists wore hats.  When Hitler showed up in 'Crusade' I had to reframe the whole series.

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The book "Maus" has some interesting insight into Nazi Germany and the holocaust as well. I highly recommend it. I've wanted someone to make an animated film or series out of it for some time, but the author seems to be 100% against such a thing. I can understand why, but at the same time I think it would bring the story to a much wider audience than it has now. Most people won't read a comic book, even if it is the only one to have ever won a pulitzer prize (and it will remain the only comic to ever win one, as they changed the rules shortly after Maus won because some 'serious' authors got all butt-hurt when a lowly comic book won).

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You chose... thriftily.

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You have an Aperture Science tattoo?

Nice.

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This came on TV 35 minutes ago here, may as well watch!

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They're having a four movie Indy Marathan next weekend!  I think I know what I'm doing next weekend...  Raiders is coming to IMAX between Sept. 7-14th.  THAT should be fun.

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It's only 'fake IMAX' isn't it?

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