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not long to go now...

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Ridley Scott fits that description as well.  And Spielberg, for that matter.   I can't think of anyone whose career spans decades and dozens of films that doesn't have a few clunkers in their timeline.   

Of course, if you're successful enough to have a career that lasts for decades, you also get to do the occasional vanity project and/or experiment that isn't necessarily supposed to be a blockbuster.  (See also:  Soderburgh)

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Well, state your point. We have yet to see if Gravity has any influence on movies or society beyond making money, as those did.

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Gravity is not a great movie from a pure storytelling standpoint. Not in my opinion at least, and this is where it disappointed me a bit.

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Let's not forget that this is about opinion.  I've been public plenty of times before saying that Scorcesse is the least favorite of "legendary," directors.  I think Coppola's praise is well earned and right on.  Same with Kubrick, Hitchcock, Goddard and Kurosawa.  Of all of those, Scorcesse to me is the weak link in the chain.  His stuff just doesn't connect as well as it seems with others.

Eddie Doty

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"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Ya, for the record I also think Gravity is a great movie, right up there with Jurassic Park, T-2, Abyss as milestone FX-driven films that transcend their technical innovations.

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Which, to me, makes my sister's opinion that Gravity is stupid and boring all the more amusing smile She watched it in 2D, so all she really had was the story and that did nothing for her.

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To put a button on the Scorcese thing so I can move on to yelling about Gravity... Just remember that he made all those movies while supporting a hefty cocaine habit. Ha.

Also... Scorcese's early stuff hits me like a ton of bricks.  Much more so than a lot of other directors.  He definitely lost that punch as he got older and moved away from making movies about working class NYC characters... But shit, man. Taxi Driver connects with me like few other movies.

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Yeah, I'm with Branco here. Cuaron has yet to make anything as good as Taxi Driver. I'm not saying he'll never get there, but as of now they can't be compared.

"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Any movie you really like, there's someone out there who hates it. Best to get used to it and ignore it.

Just as an off-hand observation, I would say that my generation seems way more obsessed with "plot" and way less interested in "theme" or "story". If I had to speculate, I'd say the rise of long-arc highly-plot driven television (I'm thinking Lost/24) has really shifted people's perceptions of what storytelling should be. A "good" story for a lot of people now seems to be something that's got a lot of plot-points, which would explain why so many movies are overly convoluted and have to have 3 different villains and multiple twists. It's why something like Drive, which would be considered a well paced, well-told action film 30 years ago, can be considered "slow and boring" by a lot of mainstream viewers today.

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"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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You guys have to keep in mind I was raised on a steady diet of 70's films, as well as foreign films and some pretty heady experimental stuff, too.  I think if you listen to me rave about Vertigo you'll understand that I am far more interested in character and theme than plot.  Taxi Driver just doesn't connect with me, hence my preferences.

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Kubrick is boring. For years I tried to convince myself that I liked Kubrick. Mostly because everyone else seems to. I can't keep the charade up anymore. He bores me. His photography is amazing, there are some fascinating shots, he created tone and mood like few others, and pairing him with Jack Nicholson was AMAZING but... meh. Paths of Glory is the only one I love. I like Strangelove a lot. And Full Metal Jacket is like seeing a Children International petitioner on the corner. I want to yell "you're doing great work" from across the street - but stay the hell away.

Intellectually, I understand what he's doing most of the time (I think). And I don't care. It's not valuable to me. But I bet he was an entertaining dinner guest.

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No, I was raving FOR Vertigo, as I did on the episode.  As for Taxi Drover, it's perfectly fine, just not the bees knees for me.

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Has there been a Taxi Driver episode yet?  If not, I might just need to fly out to LA so I can spread my love for it all over your podcast... And couch cushions.

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"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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Admittedly, I've not seen all of Kubrick's films (particular his earlier work). But I can agree that he doesn't do it for me as much as he does for others. My favourites of his though would be Lolita, Dr. Strangelove, 2001 and A Clockwork Orange.

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