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Really loved this episode and could easily have listened to four hours more.
But, uhm, the Edoras theme is not played on an Irish fiddle, but a Hardanger fiddle. Not a big deal obviously, I just always thought it was cool that they used a Norwegian instrument for Rohan, them being Vikings on horses and all.
But seriously, that was one of the best episodes in a while.
I'm really glad everyone seems to have liked this episode.
Or, that the folks who did like it really liked it. 
+1
I just figured out the main part of the hobbit theme on the piano. I'm all wibbly-wobbly inside.
In other words, awesome episode. Feel free to throw four more hours of film music discussions at my face any time you feel like.
PS : your mother's not fun
Last edited by Saniss (2013-04-03 23:31:07)
When do we get another episode? Like an unplugged version of DIF, that is with the DVD player unplugged...
Great episode, I finally had a long enough period of computer work to sit down and listen to the whole thing, absolutely amazing, looking forward to another along these lines at some point in the future.
Best non-Lucas/Spielberg is .... umm... I'm gonna go with... The Poseidon Adventure.
To the composers: have you ever heard of composers saving a good bit for a movie that is better than the one they're currently working on (or, at least, doesn't feature a wet Shelly Winters)?
Sorry if this was asked and answered. I'm only 14 hours into the podcast....
Last edited by Zarban (2013-04-06 01:51:59)
I watched Raiders of the Lost Ark again yesterday, and it struck me how Marion's theme was smiliar to Han and Leia's theme.
I haven't watched the first three Indy movies for more than ten years, so I was expecting Indy's main theme to hit me in the face, but it kinda didn't. It's partly introduced at differents points of the movie, but you don't get the grand theme I remembered, which might be more in Indy 2 and 3.
These elements remind me of someone (can't remember who) who said in the podcast than Indiana Jones' soundtrack might not be one of the greatest John Williams' soundtrack. This at least might seem true to me for Raiders of the Lost Ark.
(I still have to admit, though, that the moment when the Well of Souls' position is revealed to Indy on the miniature is made insanely epic with the music)
First of all: Hello everyone! I'm glad you guys are digging on this podcast so much.
Second:
To the composers: have you ever heard of composers saving a good bit for a movie that is better than the one they're currently working on (or, at least, doesn't feature a wet Shelly Winters)?
Sorry if this was asked and answered. I'm only 14 hours into the podcast....
Let me see if I get your question...have I ever written something during a movie and gone, "Eh, this movie isn't as good as my next one, so I'm just going to pass on using it in my current film and hold off till later?"
Sort of. Most composers I know have a "vault" of some sort. It's where we file away our (hopefully) awesome ideas that have yet to find a home. I have half a TB drive full of Logic and Pro Tools sessions plus a few plastic bins overflowing with random bits of manuscript paper. Literally 10 simultaneous albums have been being written for 3 years. Most of that music will never see the light of day. It's kind of absurd how few of my ideas I actually end up using.
That said, it's kind of nice to dig around in there if you aren't coming up with any score ideas for an awkwardly long time. "Uh, hmm, let's see...I used to know how to write music..."
I watched Raiders of the Lost Ark again yesterday, and it struck me how Marion's theme was smiliar to Han and Leia's theme.
John Williams writes a lot of similar melodies. I'm totally ok with that.
I haven't watched the first three Indy movies for more than ten years, so I was expecting Indy's main theme to hit me in the face, but it kinda didn't...These elements remind me of someone (can't remember who) who said in the podcast than Indiana Jones' soundtrack might not be one of the greatest John Williams' soundtrack. This at least might seem true to me for Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Yup, that was me. It's a great melody, totally fits the character, and somehow it just never hits me in the gut.
This would be the dude on the episode.
Welcome to the forums, sir.
This would be the dude on the episode.
Welcome to the forums, sir.
+1 as a welcome.
Also, I like the bit about maybe remembering how to write music
Sort of. Most composers I know have a "vault" of some sort. It's where we file away our (hopefully) awesome ideas that have yet to find a home. I have half a TB drive full of Logic and Pro Tools sessions plus a few plastic bins overflowing with random bits of manuscript paper. Literally 10 simultaneous albums have been being written for 3 years. Most of that music will never see the light of day. It's kind of absurd how few of my ideas I actually end up using.
That said, it's kind of nice to dig around in there if you aren't coming up with any score ideas for an awkwardly long time. "Uh, hmm, let's see...I used to know how to write music..."
Growing up, we had the original soundtrack album for the Broadway production of The Music Man. It had a great story by the creator, either on the liner or the back, about why he did it. See, he had this large trunk of songs he had written, but never used. The entire project was started as a way to finally use them, a framework into which he could just plug his existing songs.
By the time the last preview ended, the last of these songs was removed from the show and a final new song was put in to replace it. The Music Man was a hit, but all his songs were back in the trunk. He ends by saying he was thinking about doing a Music Man 2 as a way to finally empty the trunk
Growing up, we had the original soundtrack album for the Broadway production of The Music Man. It had a great story by the creator, either on the liner or the back, about why he did it. See, he had this large trunk of songs he had written, but never used. The entire project was started as a way to finally use them, a framework into which he could just plug his existing songs.
By the time the last preview ended, the last of these songs was removed from the show and a final new song was put in to replace it. The Music Man was a hit, but all his songs were back in the trunk. He ends by saying he was thinking about doing a Music Man 2 as a way to finally empty the trunk
Haha, yup. Andrew Lloyd Webber does the same thing. I'm pretty positive Music of the Night was written that way, as were many of his other songs. I wish my quote-unquote "bad" ideas were that amazing.
Alex, you're awesome.
That will be all.
You're French. I guarantee you're cooler in every single way.
Here's a Hans Zimmer classic, a Doctor Who charity single from the 80's called 'Doctor In Distress'.
Dude! you just don't go there! 
One of my favorite episodes. Any good discussion should open you up to reinterpreting some of your previously held beliefs. I always hated Zimmer's score for the Batman films, but thanks to this episode I now see that they have quite a bit of depth to them.
One of my favorite episodes. Any good discussion should open you up to reinterpreting some of your previously held beliefs. I always hated Zimmer's score for the Batman films, but thanks to this episode I now see that they have quite a bit of depth to them.
That just made me so happy.
Minimalism really is one of those things that is difficult to appreciate (unless of course you find it aesthetically pleasing from the start) if you aren't involved in creating that same medium of art. If you'd like to check out some more, I suggest listening to Steve Reich ("The Desert Music" is one of my favorites) and Arvo Part (Spotify > click anything >enjoy). They're a good starting point for the movement that (I assume) inspires a lot of Zimmer's works.
I have to repeat what other good folks have said here in that this is one of my favorite Formerly-Known-As-Down-In-Front shows. The four hours just flew by.
As someone who knows the mechanics of music but has zero natural talent, this show was such a treat. Thanks for giving us a great "inside baseball" look at music in films. You guys pointed me to many soundtracks that I must now listen to.
One small thing, though, is that I was puzzled that there was no mention of Ennio Morricone. I think he does pretty good stuff, but, like I said, I am musically untalented. I was sort of hoping to hear from people who know what they are talking about as to their opinion of Morricone's scores.
I hope you guys do another show like that soon. Thanks!
P.S. I think Alex is secretly a wizard.
+1
Once Alex makes his way out here, I predict at least one more of these episodes with a focus on every single composer any of us can think of. 
I have to repeat what other good folks have said here in that this is one of my favorite Formerly-Known-As-Down-In-Front shows. The four hours just flew by.
As someone who knows the mechanics of music but has zero natural talent, this show was such a treat. Thanks for giving us a great "inside baseball" look at music in films. You guys pointed me to many soundtracks that I must now listen to.
One small thing, though, is that I was puzzled that there was no mention of Ennio Morricone. I think he does pretty good stuff, but, like I said, I am musically untalented. I was sort of hoping to hear from people who know what they are talking about as to their opinion of Morricone's scores.
I hope you guys do another show like that soon. Thanks!
P.S. I think Alex is secretly a wizard.
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It's criminal that Morricone didn't come up. Though, he's just one of those guys that I've sort of skipped over. I mean, I know his big ones...The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly, and all that. But take a look at his IMDB page. His body of work is massive. It's unfortunate that I don't know him as well as I would like, and you've just reminded me that he needs to be my next big study (and, you know...eargasm).
Images from Hans Zimmer's Studio.
These pictures are down right pornographic.
Source: http://sobadsogood.com/2013/07/09/enter … ns-zimmer/
Fun fact: The German word for 'room' is zimmer. So you're looking at Zimmer's zimmer.
+1
I love Zimmer's Gladiator score, and Lisa Gerrard's vocals are gorgeous.
I don't recall Last Of The Mohicans coming up in the episode. I think that was the first score I really fell in love with. The violins are so amazing.
I know I'm late to the party on this one, but: bobdamn, this episode was AMAZING. I'm a music-theory geek as well, but I never really used much theory when I play something. This episode has inspired me to pick up the guitar again and do something a little more conscious and clever. THANKS! 
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