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Show notes will be coming soon; enlisting some help from Eddie for this one, so bear with us.
I'll have links for this stuff soon, but for now here's a list, care of Eddie.
List of styles:
Hung Gar
Choy Lay Fut
Fut Ga
Wing Chun
Pa Kua Chang/Ba Gua Zhang
Chin'na
Tai Chi
Hsing-i
Wu Shu
The style of Kung Fu Cinema we talk about is called Wu Xia
The school that Jackie Chan, Sammo Hung, and Yuen Biao trained at was the Peking Opera House
Pan Gai Noon is the Kung Fu style that was converted into a Karate style, called Uechi-ryu
Non-kung fu styles Eddie mention:
Penjak silat
Kali
Eskrima
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
Muay Thai
Judo
Kung Fu Movies we reference:
Five Deadly Venoms
Ip Man
Master of the Flying Guillotine
Fist of the White Lotus
Wheels on Meals
Drunken Master 2
Supercop
Ong Bak
Thom Young Goon
More to come
Thanks Eddie!
I'd just like to give a quick thanks for getting the file size back down. I was almost going to have to delete episodes to keep my main HD free, and we don't want that!
Oh, and the movie appears to be 'Crouching Tiger, Hideen Dragon', which I assume is the correct translation.
Great commentary, I'm so proud of you guys, you managed to mention nearly all of the great movies (and far better) movies out there, from Hero to Tai Chi Master to the 5 Venoms.
A great Karate film is Black Belt, a Japanese film from a couple of years ago.
What do you mean there's no such thing as "judo chop!"? ...What have I been DOING for the past five years then?!
Oh, and interesting commentary. Funny to see it from someone who doesn't like kung fu or martial arts flicks. And, Teague, seriously, check out Kung Fu Hustle. It's right up your alley, or at least the closest thing to right up your alley in the kung fu genre.
^ Black belt is very interesting. I liked it a lot.
This was an interesting commentary, a lot of good information. I did karate for the majority of my young life, so it's interesting listening to hear you guys discuss all of the different martial arts and your experiences. My training was very focused on practicality and real world fighting skills, so I've rarely been able to impress anyone with how I look when I fight. My master always said that we'd fought poorly if we took more than 2 hits before ending the fight.
Requiem,
I'm of a similar mind. I studied Kung Fu and got my Black Sash at 18. At the same time, I was doing a lot of JKD and entered in a bare knuckle Karate tournament called the Shidokan. They have it in Chicago every year or so. Anyway, I felt a limitation of what Kung Fu could offer me in terms of practical fighting. I transitioned to Muay Thai and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and haven't much looked back since. I love Kung Fu, and many of the principles of how to strike remain true, particularly with energy transference and the physics of striking, but the techniques were a little on the lower percentage scale of things for my liking.
As for taking two hits before ending a fight? Well, mileage may vary, but I don't necessarily agree with that. Sometimes you'll take no hits, sometimes you'll take a bunch. The number of hits seems less consequential than the effectiveness of those hits. One strike can put you down. Conversely, I had one guy punch me in the face I think ten times in one sparring session, but I could time it and was always at the end of his punches, so aside from a red nose, it didn't do any damage.
My master was referring to a fight in self-defense. As in, someone attacks me (someone without training), and I should be able to end things quickly.
Sparring matches and tournaments were completely different.
Fair enough. If I couldn't win a fight, I wasn't supposed to be stubborn and put my own safety on the line. Like you guys said in the commentary, if a guy has a gun, knife, or I don't think there is a good chance to win, I would get the hell out of there.
I take that to heart generally, though. I've been in situations that could have become fights very quickly, but I have always managed to either talk my way out or simply get away.
Man, I really need to get back into it. Ever since I moved, I haven't found a dojo I liked.
WHere do you live? I could make some recommendations.
I was glad to hear some of you are Avatar: The Last Airbender fans, as it will make that eventual commentary well informed (if you guys do Mystery Men, someone had better be familiar with the Flaming Carrot comics). I often ignore adaptations of stuff I love, and Airbender has the potential to suck so badly...
(if the movie is at all good, it will probably flop so we'll never see the other two films, so it's lose-lose)
I watched A:TLA episode 1 season 1, is the rest of it the same or does it change?
To Eddie: I live in Sacramento.
I have been watching Avatar at work (my job is boring) and am almost done with it now. Amazing show. Funny, touching, and with characters who develop! On a kids' show! I so very doubt the movie will be able to capture the same tone.
Time will be the main problem with the movie. They're taking 22 episodes and compressing it down to two hours. Yes, there's a lot of fluff to take out, but assuming we're getting most of the first two and last two episodes, that doesn't leave much room for any real "growth". Original films based on series tend to be better then compilations.
(in anime, there are a few cases where 26 episode series have been edited down into one movie, and it's best to ignore those. OTOH, the original Gundam was compressed into three 2 1/2 hour movies with a new ending and is great so it's all in how you do it)
The good thing is that, unlike a book-to-movie adaptation, even if the movie sucks, I can still watch the awesomeness that is the show. The fights are excellently produced in the cartoon, and while I would love for them to be done justice in live-action, if they don't it really isn't that big of a deal.
I have to comment on the whole Catching Arrows debate
This is the listing from Mythbustersresults.com for episode 109:
"The Mythbusters first tested the speed of an arrow and showed that an arrow maintains its speed as far as 70 feet because of its aerodynamic design. Then they brought “The Arrowcatcher” Anthony Kelly onto the show and had him perform various tests. Anthony proved that he could catch tennis balls traveling at 85 miles per hour (breaking a world record in the process). They then had him try and catch an actual arrow, and Anthony succeeded in catching an arrow. However, at Anthony’s request, the arrow had been fired below full strength and directly in front of Anthony. The Mythbusters decided to redo the test by firing arrows at full strength from multiple directions. This time, Anthony had much more trouble and could only catch the arrows when he knew which direction they were coming from. Since Anthony was unable to catch the arrows in full combat conditions, the Mythbusters considered the myth busted."
It does come back to what exactly the myth was they were testing, but I'm sure if someone pointed them towards an Asian who could do better they'd give the myth a third go.
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