Topic: TRON
Before you ask - no, I don't have the original recording. I wish I did, but I can't find it anywhere.
I have a tendency to fix your typos.
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Before you ask - no, I don't have the original recording. I wish I did, but I can't find it anywhere.
Ya know what? In all the time leading up to this release, and not once during the (cough, 15 hours of so, cough) time I was doing the enhancement, did I remember why I happen to have a copy of Tron to begin with. It occurred to me after I sent Teague the file, that I bought Tron about three years ago when they were going to do it on Geekza. That's a long time to wait. That copy by the way, survived the culling of my massive DVD collection prior to my move to LA, not so much because I love Tron and just had to own my own copy, but I think because I knew someday this day would come, and it would finally get the commentary it deserved. Thanks guys, it was all worth it.
This is going to be interesting on my end because the only copy of the movie I have at the moment is one where I added an iRiff to the audio, so along with the faint dialog I'll hear faint mocking while listening to you guys do your thing.
On the subject of 1982 movie releases:
http://boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view … amp;p=.htm
Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan
E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial
Blade Runner
The Thing
Those four movies came out in the span of four weeks of one another, with Blade Runner and The Thing released on the same fucking weekend. It's not to outlandish to say that June of 1982 might have the been the best month in the history of cinema. And it's certainly not outlandish to say 1982 was the best year for movies ever. Along with the four aforementioned films, the following noteworthy (names that stand out to me) all came out that year too:
The Road Warrior
First Blood
Tron
Sophie's Choice
Gandhi
Pink Floyd: The Wall
Fast Times at Ridgemont High
48 Hours
The Dark Crystal
Conan the Barbarian
Airplane II: The Sequel
Poltergeist
The King of Comedy
Creepshow
Rocky III
Friday The 13th Part III
Tootsie
Richard Pryor: Live on the Sunset Strip
Porky's
Annie
On top of that, the following three films all received re-releases during the year:
Raiders Of The Lost Ark
Bambi
Star Wars
And in a bit of irony, My Favorite Year was also released in 1982.
Last edited by Ewing (2010-12-13 06:30:47)
Ha! Raiders WAS in theaters in '82!
*sips drink, waits for Eddie's next move*
Wow. Nice research there Ewing.
Let's see, I vaguely remember Firefox, not from seeing it that year (I was 5), but on cable and such. I would have loved to be in the audience for Monty Python at the Hollywood Bowl. I was there for the premier of Iron-Man 2; had no idea it was a a venue for live performances. I actually just finished watching Monty Python: Almost The Truth, a six hour documentary on the troupe. Very interesting stuff.
It's easy to make fun of this movie but i still love it. The idea that every time i type on the keyboard, i'm interacting with a guy in a church in the speeded-up electronic world who thinks i'm a god is an awesome concept in a 1982 kids movie.
Just the unique, labour-intensive 70mm vfx alone are an amazing story. If you've never heard the dvd commentary (which is actually from the 20yr old laserdisc), you should check it out.
Speaking of amazing, thanks for the chapters and links Matt.
I love Bit! I hope Tron: Legacy is all about Bit.
Sark's brain bits also have clock parts, and got the film a PG rating. For a nice exploration the story of Abraham read The Fall of Hyperion by Dan Simmons. Maybe Avatar's a little too cynical to be looked upon fondly 30years from now.
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Glad you like sir, you're quite welcome. I haven't listened to the director commentary in quite a while, but from what I remember it is pretty interesting stuff. All that stuff Eddie mentioned about having to bolt the camera to the floor so it wouldn't move, wild; if only they'd had Boujou. Amazing how far we've come.
After hearing you guys comment on no subtitles for either this or Reservoir Dogs... have you tried just using the closed captioning on the TV? That's how I got subtitles on Reservoir Dogs while listening to you guys.
Yeah, my copy of Tron has subtitles; they can be weird though. Some discs allow you to change the subtitle track while the disc is playing by hitting the subtitle button on the player remote. Others require you to select the track from a menu before you play it.
// is baffled.
On the subject that was brought up during the discussion about the occurrence of the hero having to realize his heroic duty/potential by assisting another to complete the quest/save the day.
A fantasy novel that approaches this on two fronts is that of Mistborn, the back of the book quote that kinda sold the idea to me was ... wow this is from memory so ... There was a hero that was destined to defeat the great evil and save the world, there is always a hero, but what if in this story he failed, and now we live in the world that is left.
It is a interesting series if you haven't read it, and to make it germain it approaches this concept both in the primary story with the main cast, as well as eventually through flashbacks to the failed hero.
I think they all have to have SOMETHING for the hearing impaired, so if there's no subtitle option there have to be closed captions.
I think they all have to have SOMETHING for the hearing impaired, so if there's no subtitle option there have to be closed captions.
Come to think of it, I think that's how their labeled on Tron, as closed captions. Might be why they got overlooked, but I kind of figured that sort of thing was understood by now. *shrug
if only they'd had Boujou.
$10k a copy? Jesus. *raises glass* Long live Blender and those like it.
A fantasy novel that approaches this on two fronts is that of Mistborn, the back of the book quote that kinda sold the idea to me was ... wow this is from memory so ... There was a hero that was destined to defeat the great evil and save the world, there is always a hero, but what if in this story he failed, and now we live in the world that is left.
I read (well, listened to the audiobook anyway) the first one and liked it pretty well. I'll probably keep going.
Come to think of it, I think that's how their labeled on Tron, as closed captions.
A simple thing that gets screwed up more often than it should. On Ghost in the Shell 2 there's no english dub, which is ok, but the only english subtitles are for the deaf, so there's always text with 'whir' or 'buzz' onscreen. Annoying. And not a cheap dvd either.
Last edited by beldar (2010-12-14 15:26:11)
Matt Vayda wrote:if only they'd had Boujou.
$10k a copy? Jesus. *raises glass* Long live Blender and those like it.
Which is a bit like saying "Who would spend money on a forklift when you can get a cheap van off Craigslist?" Because even if the van runs great, it can't do what a forklift does. And a $10k forklift is better than none at all.
Boujou isn't the only name in the game these days, though. It was the first big one so it's synonymous with matchmoving, but honestly whenever I've used it, I've hated it. I've gotten better results, and faster, with SynthEyes and/or the new hotness, PFMatchIt. Which goes to Matt's point about how far we've come, since both programs sell for under a grand.
Maya used to cost like $16,000 for a one-year license, too.
A fantasy novel that approaches this on two fronts is that of Mistborn, the back of the book quote that kinda sold the idea to me was ... wow this is from memory so ... There was a hero that was destined to defeat the great evil and save the world, there is always a hero, but what if in this story he failed, and now we live in the world that is left.
Reminds me of a story idea I had as a teen, of what if the heros actually DID defeat evil which tossed the universe out of balance, and our main character had to work to bring evil back. Scenes like being happy his minions perform their first rapes is why I never actually wrote it The original Dragonlance books had a similar theme for the backstory, where the Gods decided the world had become too good so they let evil rule for awhile.
beldar wrote:Matt Vayda wrote:if only they'd had Boujou.
$10k a copy? Jesus. *raises glass* Long live Blender and those like it.
Which is a bit like saying "Who would spend money on a forklift when you can get a cheap van off Craigslist?" Because even if the van runs great, it can't do what a forklift does. And a $10k forklift is better than none at all.
Which brings to mind what someone said about the high price of Apple's photo software Aperture, to the effect that if it's too expensive then you're not a professional. Which I think finally made my ex-brother in law realize his hobby was still just that...
I think during a tangent Teague mentioned that the Japanese were developing robots to help out at nursing homes. It reminded me of a news report by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation about a year ago. It discusses the advancement of robotic technology in Japan and while doesn't feature any real groundbreaking news it does show (at about 4:40 in Part 1) some excellent footage of the roboticists demonstrating their prototype (it keeps dropping the patient).
For your viewing pleasure:
Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF7V0qoMKbM
Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYI9uBp9 … re=related
Actually it reminded me of the 1991 anime film 'Roujin Z', written by Katsuhiro Otomo of 'AKIRA' fame. A new computerized hospital bed breaks out of the hospital with an old invalid in it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roujin_Z
So i finally sat down and watched Tron, I had seen bits and pieces here and there and then I listened to the DiF of it, but I'd never actually sat down and watched it. But now i have, and i gotta say i really have no clue what you guys are talking about re: the actually not goodness of it and lagging nature of it. I kept waiting for it to turn so sour that you guys were left dumbstruck by it, but it never came. Maybe my glasses are a bit tinted towards 80's movies especially 80's sci-fi (And Tron definitely had it's 80's-ness showing at times), but honestly I never felt the length and I was legitimately entertained through pretty much the entire thing.
Now will I feel that way the second time though? Well that remains to be seen, but I think so... at least for once more.
However I'm curious...to which exceedingly long disc sequence do you guys keep referring to? Because any of the light disc scenes I saw were of a perfectly reasonable length, and I'm worried I may have unknowingly passed out partway through without my knowing it and that would suck...because I like the movie I remember.
Anyways...Imma gonna go back to trying to find time to see Legacy again.
Last edited by BigDamnArtist (2010-12-27 05:03:05)
$10k a copy? Jesus. *raises glass* Long live Blender and those like it.
I do find it kind of interesting that you bring Blender up in a conversation about Motion tracking software...seeing as Blender doesn't even have the beginnings of a rudimentary tracking system.
Maybe there's a "those like it" that does. If not, maybe there will be if enough people think the idea behind Blender's a good one.
Icarus was free, if I recall correctly.
lol
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