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We're talking about a company that rebooted Spiderman with an entirely new cast only five years after the previous incarnation. They'll keep all their current roster grinding out movies as long as they can because that's easiest. But as soon as anyone can't or won't show up, Marvel will replace/reboot with new actors.
The evidence clearly shows audiences will still keep coming, no matter what. Pretty sure Marvel isn't worried at ALL about the individual actors. And they don't have to be. There've been, what, seven Batmans in my lifetime? And that's just so far.
It's a co-production, yes, although Marvel's still involved. Either way, the precedent is there to show the actor doesn't matter, just the property. And Marvel's already replaced supporting actors in their own solo movies without anybody giving a darn.
Twitter will light up for a couple weeks when they announce the new Iron Man actor someday. But unless the bottom falls out of the superhero movie market entirely, the new movie will make a half billion like always. ![]()
The thing about many comic super heroes is different people play the part in the comics themselves (one reason the animated Justice League was able to have a Black Green Lantern). So, they may just have someone else take over in continuity. Or, hell, retire that hero for a few years. It's not like they have a lack of ones to make movies about.
Just saw it, and I'm gonna be in the very slim minority here, because, while I would by no means call it bad, I just didn't care for the film. It was certainly witty, but it was witty without possessing any humanity. I was amused by what the characters said, but I couldn't have given less of a damn about any of them. I was more invested in The Amazing Spider-Man II than I was in this movie, and I have an equal degree of unfamiliarity with each of the films' source material, so it's not just that. I think a large part of it has to do with the fact that, for all ASMII's flaws, Peter and Gwen felt like real people with real emotions and relationships, and none of GotG's characters had that reality for me. The WTF-ness of the plot that Trey mentioned earlier certainly contributed to that feeling. Also, I think I'm just burned out on this kind of movie. Oh no, a new villain with no backstory and a desire to destroy an entire planet must be stopped. Again. And we will stop him in battle sequences full of over-the-top CGI and no real sense of danger for anyone. I've never been a fan of that kind of film to begin with, and I guess the catalyst for my getting utterly fed up with it had the misfortune of being this movie.
Saw it on Thursday morning with my daughter (it opened a day earlier here in the UK) and really didn't feel like I had much to add to the discussion, but figured I'd chip in just to sort of keep Darth company. I liked it, but I wanted to love it and didn't.
Perhaps because I'd heard from reviews that the plot was kind of complicated, I actually made an effort to follow it, and that was possibly a mistake because I really felt the Marvel-itis. Many of the 'layers' to the plot didn't feel organic, but rather seemed to arise from the need to service previous and future entries, so the complexity seemed unnecessary.
And for me Darth is spot on about battle sequences and the lack of danger in particular. I thought there were too many of them (partly as a consequence of the plot complexity) and, like him, maybe this film just happened to be the tipping point, but every time I thought "Ok, here we go. Another consequence-free cartoon to watch for 10 minutes."
In the end, I think my overall feeling was more vague and diffuse frustration, but then maybe it's just because I'm a glass-half-empty kind of guy. It felt like the people involved actually knew how to make a good movie, and sort of did. The 'character scenes' were in general good (though I really felt a split between the 'character scenes' and the 'action scenes'). If they'd just had more scope to develop the characters (particularly the bad guys), it could have been really great instead of likeable enough.
I loved Guardians of the Galaxy! Most fun I've had at the theater in a decade. It was kinda like 'Big Trouble In Little China' in space.
I don't see how this plot is that complicated. MacGuffin orb is worth a lot of money, but it turns out that if the bad guy gets the MacGuffin orb, Bad Things will happen, so the bad guy must be stopped.
I get the feeling that they put Thanos at the end of Avengers expecting him to be the Big Bad for Avengers 2, but they changed their minds somewhere along the way. So they threw him in Guardians so that audiences wouldn't forget about him and took the opportunity to introduce the Infinity Stones while they were at it.
IMO, the worst part about Thanos was Josh Brolin. He was just...not bringing it at all. You expect a dude who looks like Thanos to sound like James Earl Jones or something. I think they made a bad call casting him.
Quoted from the chat for posterity.
"It was exactly and entirely everything I hoped it would be."
I LOVED this movie. Every single bit of it. It's exactly the sort of movie I've been pinning for for a very long while, and it delivered on every single front.
I'll do a longer write up when it's not 1 in the morning, but damn, that was beautiful.*
*And I don't just mean Karen Gillan...although yes... yowza.
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