Topic: Arcs vs. Revelation

I'm relistening to the Dawn of The Dead 04 commentary right now and you guys were talking about "this isn't an arc movie" and that got me thinking.

What is the merit of a character arc based movie; where the character starts as one person which you set up fully and formed at the beginning of your movie and by the end of the movie is changed in some significant and permanent way; versus a revelation based movie; where you just throw your audience headlong into the movie, don't explain anything, and as the movie evolves we learn who this/ese character(s) is/are.

Is there a merit to one over the other? As you guys said in the commentary that a revelation type of set up is probably better for DOtD because thats the way life would be in that kind of situation, does that apply to other situations?

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Re: Arcs vs. Revelation

It probably depends on the time frame of your film, and the number of characters. If you're dealing with a dozen people over the course of two or three days, not only isn't the audience going to be able to focus on any one character enough to notice a change but there probably wouldn't be much to change. At best, an aspect of their personality others hadn't seen might come out. On the other hand, if you're dealing with a small cast over a few months then if the events of the movie aren't changing the characters in some way there's no reason to be making a movie about those events smile

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Right. In a drama/comedy (which are the same thing), you typically want the audience invested in the emotional state of the hero because the stakes aren't otherwise very high. (Will she find love or will her heart be broken?!)

In a genre film, you typically want the audience invested in the physical state of the hero or his family and friends because that's usually what's at stake: you fail, you die.

But in both cases, it's perfectly possible to build in a character arc where the main characters (sometimes including the villain) are revealed and then eventually changed. That's just strong story-telling. But in genre, it's still quite satisfying to present a character who, in the course of the story, merely demonstrates his mettle.

  • The Terminator is the best, most obvious example of the genre character arc: Sarah Connor is going to be killed unless she toughens up and fights back.

  • In Die Hard, John McClane demonstrates his mettle but also learns something along the way about being a better husband—he actually has a long talk about it over the radio while he's doctoring his bloody feet. Classic.

  • In Last Crusade, Indy learns his father wasn't just a neglectful obsessive; he thought he was giving Junior a great childhood. They both learn something about what's important ("Junior... let it go") while killing Nazis.

But does Indy change much by the end of Temple of Doom? Not really. Does Batman ever really learn anything or grow as a person in any movie except perhaps The Dark Knight? This is why Hollywood loves origin stories for superheroes. They provide an obvious opportunity for character growth.

Disaster movies (including zombie apocalypses) are more of the sort where people don't change; they just show what they're really like under pressure. Some step up and become heroes; some betray the others to try to save themselves. When this is done well, it feels like--and maybe even is--a character arc and is really satisfying (loaner MacReady takes charge in The Thing). When it's done badly, you just have nameless victims getting killed until the only one left is the one who didn't take off her top.

There's never any reason not to give a hero an emotional arc. But in genre, and especially in the sequels, it's often hard to do it.

  • Dirty Harry doesn't change much in Dirty Harry, but he learns that it's no use working within a system that doesn't work, so he throws away his badge at the end.

  • In Magnum Force, he learns that vigilante justice is also unworkable.

  • By The Enforcer, Tyne Daly's character is needed to be a character that learns something new, because Callahan has seen it all.

So in sequels, writers usually introduce a new character to be the real center or to help the main character learn a new lesson.

  • In Terminator 2, Sarah is pushed aside so that John can be the center of attention and grow into a hero.

  • In Aliens, Ripley--whose inner mettle was revealed (along with her panties) in Alien--gets Hicks, Newt, and especially Bishop to help her learn about teamwork, humanity, and trust--all of which were subverted by the first film.

In short, there's nothing like a solid character arc to enhance your genre story, and all the better if the bad guy has an arc of his own.

And that's why Point Break is the greatest film of all time.

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Re: Arcs vs. Revelation

Both Tim Burton's first Batman and both of Nolan's are interesting case studies as well.   

In Burton's Batman, Michael Keaton is already Batman at the beginning of the movie, and he's still Batman at the end.    No arc there.  But Nicholson's Joker has a complete arc - we see him become the Joker, we see him BE the Joker, and we follow his story all the way to its end.

In Batman Begins, we see.. well, Batman begin.  So Bruce Wayne gets a full character arc in that one.    But in The Dark Knight, he's the same throughout.  Sure, he suffers a lot and becomes a pariah at the end, but these are just things that happen to him, they don't actually change his character at all.   

Ledger's Joker has no arc either, he also stays the same through the entire movie.    Of all the main characters in TDK, Harvey Dent is the only one with an arc, albeit a tragic one.

It's the same dynamic as the classic Western anti-hero like Shane, or the Road Warrior, or Yojimbo... the title character doesn't change - he just shows up, does his thing, and then moves on.   The arc-ing is carried by the supporting characters.

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That's a good point: anti-heroes rarely arc. I'm also not sure there's much of any arc for the protagonist in any Christopher Nolan film. Maybe Insomnia, with Pacino achieving some redemption....

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