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It's kind of astounding that a show that is building towards a series of stories we're familiar with, and has shown us ten episodes ago where this particular season is ending up, can manage to pack in this many genuine surprises.
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Hannibal S02E10
I'm reading an interesting theory about the last part of the episode: Freddie Lounds is still alive and playing along with Will to help him catch Hannibal. I got so caught up in the tension I didn't think this at all while watching the episode, but it actually makes perfect sense.
Still, what Will did with the corpse of Randall Tier is pretty extreme. With the first episode's prologue, my guess is that Will's plan is going to succeed, but in what context and with which consequences for Will, I have no idea.
Gotta love the sex scene, too. The show has a way of handling and showing this dual scene of sex mixed up with intricate psychology that's properly incredible. I was astounded.
Also, long pig is another way of calling cannibalism, Wikipedia tells me.
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Saniss wrote:
Hannibal S02E10I'm reading an interesting theory about the last part of the episode: Freddie Lounds is still alive and playing along with Will to help him catch Hannibal. I got so caught up in the tension I didn't think this at all while watching the episode, but it actually makes perfect sense.Still, what Will did with the corpse of Randall Tier is pretty extreme. With the first episode's prologue, my guess is that Will's plan is going to succeed, but in what context and with which consequences for Will, I have no idea.
Also, long pig is another way of calling cannibalism, Wikipedia tells me.
SPOILER
The fact that the promo for next week had the flaming wheelchair makes me pretty positive that Freddie Lounds is going to survive for Red Dragon. I'm assuming Will had to stop her from running away from him and spoiling the plan, but once he had overpowered her he explained what was going on and she's going to play along. If that's the case, he saved her life, because Hannibal was wearing his good suit in her hotel room.
Regardless of the outcome "You slice the ginger" made me laugh. And yeah, "Long Pig" is a term for human meat, and given Hannibal's refined palate, I'm assuming Will must have actually supplied some human meat, and is eating it with him, which is pretty fucking dark. I'm guessing it's from Randall since enough of him seemed to be in the freezer. They're definitely making a hell of a case for why Will didn't want to come back to work for Jack Crawford in Red Dragon.
This episode also had the best line since, "Peter, is your social worker inside that horse?"
"Can I have Carlos slaughter you a hog?"
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Would it be possible, though, to separate the episode spoilers from what is seen in the next episode promos and Hannibal Lecter in other works? I know it's not very practical, but promos are forbidden territory for myself, and I don't know anything about this fictional world apart from the show and Silence of the Lambs. 
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Oh, I'm sorry man. I didn't even think about that. Won't happen again.
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If it's any consolation, the show has diverged radically from the books, so it's unlikely that anything meaningful will get spoiled by them. The Vergers are taken from the book after Silence of the Lambs, for example.
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If it's any consolation, the show has diverged radically from the books, so it's unlikely that anything meaningful will get spoiled by them. The Vergers are taken from the book after Silence of the Lambs, for example.
Well, that's true, but
Hannibal the shitty movie and probably later episodes of this season
Mason in Hannibal has an origin story that dates back to before Hannibal was locked up, so pre-Red Dragon. And we're probably going to see a version of the flashback scene from that film soon, and without the annoying slow shutter speed photography.
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Fucking phenomenal episode tonight.
Totally called Freddie being alive.
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Totally agree. This season is building in such an unexpected way, but every move feels so calculated and correct. SO stoked to hear they finally got picked up for a third today.
Outstanding performances tonight. Michael Pitt is doing terrific work as Mason Verger, and the first scene where Hannibal and Will discuss Abigail was some of their strongest work to date.
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Also, I am amazed that this show has a villain who DRINKS THE TEARS OF ORPHANED CHILDREN and it STILL doesn't feel ridiculous.
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Holy shit. Tonight's episode was easily the best yet. That was incredibly unnerving.
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FUCK this show omg I love it.
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ATTENTION. THE REST OF THIS FORUM, ATTENTION.
Hannibal is the best show on television, it's season finale is one of the best episodes of television I've ever seen, and I swear to god if you don't catch up with it by the time season 3 starts I will murder every one of you and create beautiful artistic tableaus of your corpses.
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ATTENTION. THE REST OF THIS FORUM, ATTENTION.
Hannibal is the best show on television, it's season finale is one of the best episodes of television I've ever seen, and I swear to god if you don't catch up with it by the time season 3 starts I will murder every one of you and create beautiful artistic tableaus of your corpses.
That seems fitting, given the nature of the show.
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Doctor Submarine wrote:
ATTENTION. THE REST OF THIS FORUM, ATTENTION.
Hannibal is the best show on television, it's season finale is one of the best episodes of television I've ever seen, and I swear to god if you don't catch up with it by the time season 3 starts I will murder every one of you and create beautiful artistic tableaus of your corpses.
I just finished the finale, and overall, Hannibal has left me feeling more ambivalent. I don't dislike it, far from it, but somewhere along the way it lost me, and I just couldn't regain my early enthusiasm for it. I think S2E4 was my first stumbling block; I was really disappointed with how that episode played out.
After that episode, the procedural elements were almost non-existent, which was great because that was the one weak element of the first season. Unfortunately, for me, once the procedural stuff was cut back, the show no longer felt grounded in reality. The psychological stuff is great, and it's an amazing character study. But it started to feel like the psychological stuff and the character study were the only things the creators put their energy into; plot conveniences and contrivance made up too much of the rest of the story. On this show, it seems incredibly easy to kill people, transport their bodies unseen, and create lurid displays with their bodies without leaving any evidence.
It might just be that I'm slightly too far outside of my genre comfort zone. I'm not usually interested in these kind of thrillers. But I really enjoyed the first season and much of the second season. If I had to grade it, I might only give it a 7 / 10, but it's still strongly recommended because when it's good, it's awesome.
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The show has never been grounded in reality. There's always been an element of magical realism and dream logic to the show. I think you have to let go of that to get the most out of it.
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Doctor Submarine wrote:
The show has never been grounded in reality. There's always been an element of magical realism and dream logic to the show. I think you have to let go of that to get the most out of it.
Hmm--see, I'm a big fan of the first two books/films (Hannibal the movie/book is an abomination), and that element definitely isn't present in those. D'you think it's still easy for a prior fan to get over that tone shift and enjoy the show? (Also, that makes me curious about whether their adaptations of Red Dragon/Silence of the Lambs will keep that magical realism or stay true to their source material.)
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The show re-imagines a LOT of the source material (the Vergers showed up in this season, for instance) so if you're willing to accept that you'll probably be able to get on board.
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Fun fact: I still have no idea what this show is about or what network it's on.
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Teague wrote:
Fun fact: I still have no idea what this show is about or what network it's on.
Well, the title probably made you think of something. It's that thing. And it's on NBC.
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Teague wrote:Fun fact: I still have no idea what this show is about or what network it's on.
Well, the title probably made you think of something. It's that thing. And it's on NBC.
A TV show about Hannibal of Carthage?! AWESOME! 
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Doctor Submarine wrote:Teague wrote:Fun fact: I still have no idea what this show is about or what network it's on.
Well, the title probably made you think of something. It's that thing. And it's on NBC.
A TV show about Hannibal of Carthage?! AWESOME!
I think they're finally getting to the elephants next season.
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