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I just realized something that should have dawned on me sooner. If Nielsen ratings only really matter to network television, why do we care? Think about it. All of the shows people talk about and point to as being the best or their favorite are on HBO, AMC or another channel that isn't one of the big four. Who gives a shit if Nielsen works or not if the only people using it are producing watered down formulaic crap to begin with?

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"The Doctor is Submarining through our brains." --Teague

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For the record, Terra Nova is MUCH more expensive than GoT.  thrones is a lesser known cast, with less vfx, and less expensive producers.

Eddie Doty

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Steven Spielberg and Brannon Braga's producers fees dwarf that of Benioff's.  Also, the vfx budget on Terra Nova is huge.  Benioff has even said prior to going into produuction on season 2 of GoT that he had no idea how they were going to afford their VFX needs on their budget.  Theonly criticisms that GRRM has had of the series is that the budget doesnt allow certain scenes to be realized a certqin way.  He uses the Boar hunt in episode 6 as an example.  In the book, the boar hunt is 100 men on hoarseback with tents set up.   In the show, it's King Robert holding a spear while walking through the forest with 3 other people.

Eddie Doty

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I think TV budgets have the same underlying issue that movies do. You CAN make something good on a low budget, but the guys who do that immediately command MUCH higher fees. And it doesn't make sense to saddle a top creative type with a budget barely bigger than his fee.

It's a surprise that HBO and AMC and such are able to do even whey they do accomplish.

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Yup, I want to work for HBO.

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And a round of applause for Trey. That was amazing.

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Well, Trey, thank you. Thank you.

For the record, THIS is why I bug Trey until he writes quality posts.

So…based on that…I wouldn't expect to ever see a quality show out of network TV again. The Sorkins and the Whedons and the Darabonts and the Spielbergs should all be looking to basic or paid cable in order to have any shot of telling a good story, regardless of budget.

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I know tv stations would never do this: but if they would guarantee each of their shows, when cancelled, would get a final ep to round of the series, maybe people would be so keen to jump ship immediately upon hearing mutterings of cancellation.

btw: does your list of cancellation types include the one where the makers finish of the season (sometimes leaving us on an end of season cliffhanger), only to find out later that the show won't be returning (no mention of cancellation having been mentioned beforehand).

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Send a black goatee.

*shrug*

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