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Didn't Star Trek V: The Final Frontier waste money on a rock monster idea? I'll always kinda feel bad for Shatner on that one. I haven't read my Cinefex for that one in a long time but apparently there was a writer's strike, so when production eventually began no A-list vfx shops where available, so some company in New Jersey did it. They bought a ton of new equipment and had to reinvent the wheel, like the white Enterprise was tricky to shoot against a blue screen, etc. Stuff ILM had mastered.

They say Michael Cimino (i'm a big Year of the Dragon fan) ignored his $3m budget on Heaven's Gate and blew through another $40m+, which was a lot in 1979. There's no way that wasn't going to end in tears. Some studio exec said yes to all that, or didn't say no, but Cimino got the blame.

I've never seen it, who get's naked? 7 of the top 8 starring credits are guys. It's not Patrick Stewart, is it? *shiver*

The next time you ask him "so what do you think?" and he whips out his calculator, make sure you give him a whack and say "stop that!"

For me, Ramis' "i'm terrified beyond the capacity for rational thought" line is one of the funniest things in the movie.

I'd say 3D was obviously a fad, the way it came and went in the '50s and '80s, if it wasn't for 3D TVs. If sales take off, 3D might be hear to stay.

Damn, you testy.

In the OT they're space nazis.

I understand that part. I'm just saying that for whatever reason, the lists of noms often don't represent the best work. It's nothing new of course, awards are always like that.

No 'best picture' nom for The Dark Knght?
Fahrenheit 9/11 gets the palme d'or?

Terrible.

Totally random: wiki says Ordinary People "...is the last Best Picture winner without a Film Editing nomination..."

'Best editing' is even more a popularity contest than 'best picture.'

That screenshot's from a movie i've seen i just can't remember right now. From the look of John Dykstra and the other movies mentioned i'll say 1984.

I think it's more a type of movie that wins.

Annie Hall winning over Star Wars
Ordinary People over Raging Bull
Gandhi over ET
Dances With Wolves over Goodfellas

The obviously made in Hollywood movie wins over something gritty, or made with more technical skill. I hope that stops happening - just give the award to the best-made movie, not the one most people went to see. But as Trey mentioned that's not how it works. There's a scene in The Player that spells out the elements needed to get a typical movie green-lit. "Mainly happy endings."

I was surprised Hurt Locker won over Avatar last year, but maybe it was because of patriotism and wanting to support the troops.

I think he did a great job. The "exchanging looks" ending, for example, was original and effective. Isn't it possible to have a well-directed confusing movie?

In an auteur sense i guess you're right but the categories should stand more on their own. His actual directing work shouldn't be snubbed because of the great but too confusing story.

I'm the little one saying "what's sugar tits?"

Heh, i had no idea what you were talking about.